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Thread: Are light traits in Southern Europe due to the northern European admixture ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    I suppose that's for european spanish influence...
    That india I dont think she has spanish influence, frankly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    I suppose that's for european spanish influence...
    This picture was taken in the early 90s and this girl is from a guanary tribe in the brazilian-paraguayan border...this tribe firstly met the ''civilization'' in 1985 so i really doubt that there are any euro influences...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    I suppose that's for european spanish influence...
    She is from Brazil. And looks 100% native.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lábaru View Post
    Is normal that Iberia to have a high tolerance to lactose because genetically is the area of ​​southern Europe with more genes from central/Atlantic area and northern Europe.
    the question is when these genes appeared in Iberia ? from what i know in S.Europe the first migrations from the North since at least the mesolithic happened during the late copper age/early bronze age with the indoeuropeans :

    early bronze age - Bell Beaker reflux from C.Europe (Proto-Celts ?)
    late bronze age - Urnfield expansion from C.Europe (Proto-Celts , Italics , Illyrians ,Phrygians etc..)
    early iron age - Hallstatt expansion (Celts)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lábaru View Post
    Anyway every map says something different, not very realiable.
    Spare me your sarcasm. That map is unsourced and so unreliable.

    Here is the source of the map posted by me.

    A worldwide correlation of lactase persistence phenotype and genotypes
    Yuval Itan1,2*, Bryony L Jones1, Catherine JE Ingram1, Dallas M Swallow1 and Mark G Thomas1,2,3

    http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2148/10/36

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    ^ That study looks like a mess. Apparently they have computed the average value from these 2 studies: De Ritis et al 1983 and Cavalli Sforza et al 1987.

    http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/48...e2=tf_ipsecsha

    Btw it's obvious that Ritis et al with only 9 samples is not very reliabe. Cavalli Sforza gives the value of 41% for S.Italians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solin View Post
    If 10% of SWA can make someone look Arab
    ... And where is the proof of this exactly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peyrol View Post
    This picture was taken in the early 90s and this girl is from a guanary tribe in the brazilian-paraguayan border...this tribe firstly met the ''civilization'' in 1985 so i really doubt that there are any euro influences...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peyrol View Post
    About 55% of our population is composed by second-third generation southerners.

    But, since the datas about eye colors are from a study of 1910, they were right.
    Indeed, ethnic northern italians are considerably lighter than southern ones. Many venetians, piedmontese lombards or friulians i have met resemble austrians or swiss.

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