Are light traits in Southern Europe due to the northern European admixture ?

[Neanderthal]

Makes no sense when people claim that colour eyes mutated on the Caucasus 20'000 years ago, and then come with blue eyed Amazonians. I guess they mutanted in each and every corner of the world too. /sarcasm.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

I'd assume light traits would be less frequent in Southern Europe if not for Northern European admixture, but they'd still exist to a degree. You see light pigmented West Asians after all, so why not Southern Europeans too?

I agree, like this 2 girls


they are sisters

they have light eyes and light hair and are pale but their white ancestry is from Galicia, Spain.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

It's more like the other way around and the dark traits have come in through waves of migration. Especially during bronze age collapse of 1000 BC, but also romans and greeks and byzantines took slaves, and had merchants from all around the world. That's why jews and greeks cluster somewhat, they are all kinda mashed together.

The rounder head germanic look and general smooth features of mediterranean are not the most ancient in europe, but the more archaic looks are. Like the larger faced Iberians, the Irish and Basques, the large headed nordics (which is what greeks used to look like) etc. etc.

When you realize how many skin genes there are and that they're all dominant, you see it's very hard to breed the darkness out, it just doesn't go away. It can in individuals but not populations.

[Damião de Góis]

I'm curious! how do you know that your appearance is from someone 100% native?

How do i know? It's just my opinion.

[Benacer]

It's more like the other way around and the dark traits have come in through waves of migration. Especially during bronze age collapse of 1000 BC, but also romans and greeks and byzantines took slaves, and had merchants from all around the world. That's why jews and greeks cluster somewhat, they are all kinda mashed together.

Especially during the bronze age collapse? Where do you get these ideas from? Please tell me you aren't implying the "Sea peoples" have anything to do with it. Anyways, dark traits have been around for much longer before.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Especially during the bronze age collapse? Where do you get these ideas from? Please tell me you aren't implying the "Sea peoples" have anything to do with it. Anyways, dark traits have been around for much longer before.

What an ignorant post. You are bit bit young and dumb to have so much confidence in your words.

Semitic tribes. Now google classic greek features and find out what that means. Oh, nordic, whoops. And greek toe, which hardly any greeks today have but is much more common to the west might mean something.

[Benacer]

What an ignorant post. You are bit bit young and dumb to have so much confidence in your words.

That's hilarious coming from you. And how old would you be?

Semitic tribes. Now google classic greek features and find out what that means. Oh, nordic, whoops. And greek toe, which hardly any greeks today have but is much more common to the west might mean something.

How is that supposed to answer my question? And what does it have to do with the Bronze Age collapse? Greeks and many Europeans have genetic ties to the Middle East, which date far back to the Neolithic. This is well attested by archaeogenetics and by a simple analysis of cultural similarities between the Minoan and even the Mycenaean civilization (to a lesser degree) to the Fertile Crescent.

[Reozek]

Light traits in southern Europe are at least partially Indo-European in origin.

possibly...according with some sources about the bronze age in Italy , between the III and the II millennium b.c. there had been a complete replacement of the population, particularly in the Tuscany-Lazio area, where the population of the "Rinaldone culture" (composed mainly by dolico-mediterraneans and few brachycephals of possible eastern origin) dissapear rapidly , the Italics are believed to have migrated to Italy subsequently

[Gaston]

Not all light traits (eye and hair color) are related to [Northern] European ancestry in Southern Europeans because these traits are found in the Middle East and North Africa (at much lower frequency). However, there is a correlation in some cases like in Sardinians who have very low levels of light traits and are also one of the least North European-admixed people.