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    Admix Results:

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 41.33
    2 Baltic 23.88
    3 West_Med 14.92
    4 West_Asian 8.86
    5 East_Med 6.04
    6 Red_Sea 1.78
    7 South_Asian 1.61
    8 East_Asian 0.00
    9 Siberian 1.07
    10 Amerindian 0.36
    11 Oceanian 0.00
    12 Northeast_African 0.15
    13 Sub-Saharan 0.00


    Pct. Calc. Option 2

    0 Unable to determine 0.10%
    1 German 52.82%
    2 Norwegian 26.10%
    3 Armenian 7.80%
    4 Sardinian 6.92%
    5 Selkup 2.10%
    6 French_Basque 2.09%
    7 Brahui 1.08%
    8 Lithuanian 1.00%
    9 Moroccan 0.01%
    10 Ket 0.00%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackson View Post
    I always thought it would be interesting to know the range of each component for the constituents of each population group. Would be useful to help see how much variation there is around the population average.
    I think that can be extrapolated from individual results like ones we have ITT. Eurogenes calculators get around calculator effect so it shouldn't be problematic.

    For example, if you have known Russian matches in Gedmatch, run them through the test and compare those who get Russian as closest population in Oracle with the average Russian result. Since many populations that are separate in the calculator identify as Russians, it may be safest to ignore those who get something like Kargopol Russian or Northwest Ukrainian as closest population if you are just interested in the calculator's "Russian".

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    1 Baltic 53.11
    2 North_Atlantic 32.34
    3 Siberian 8.1
    4 West_Med 2.71
    5 Amerindian 1.63
    6 West_Asian 0.96
    7 Sub-Saharan 0.77
    8 Oceanian 0.13
    9 Northeast_African 0.13
    10 East_Asian 0.12

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 East_Finnish 4.44
    2 Finnish 5.93
    3 Estonian 6.68
    4 Lithuanian 9.65
    5 Kargopol_Russian 10.13
    6 Belorussian 10.76
    7 Southwest_Finnish 11.41
    8 Erzya 12.38
    9 Russian 13.59
    10 Ukrainian_Northeast 14.3
    11 Ukrainian 15.87
    12 Polish 16.28
    13 Ukrainian_West 17.04
    14 North_Swedish 19.63
    15 Chuvash 22.8
    16 Hungarian 24.58
    17 Austrian 25.91
    18 Swedish 26.16
    19 Mari 27.56
    20 Norwegian 27.82

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 82.5% East_Finnish + 17.5% Estonian @ 4.31
    2 89.7% East_Finnish + 10.3% Lithuanian @ 4.33
    3 93.1% East_Finnish + 6.9% Finnish @ 4.43
    4 100% East_Finnish + 0% Abhkasian @ 4.44
    5 100% East_Finnish + 0% Adygei @ 4.44
    6 100% East_Finnish + 0% Algerian @ 4.44
    7 100% East_Finnish + 0% Altaian @ 4.44
    8 100% East_Finnish + 0% Armenian @ 4.44
    9 100% East_Finnish + 0% Ashkenazi @ 4.44
    10 100% East_Finnish + 0% Assyrian @ 4.44
    11 100% East_Finnish + 0% Austrian @ 4.44
    12 100% East_Finnish + 0% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 4.44
    13 100% East_Finnish + 0% Azeri_Jewish @ 4.44
    14 100% East_Finnish + 0% Balkar @ 4.44
    15 100% East_Finnish + 0% Balochi @ 4.44
    16 100% East_Finnish + 0% Bangladeshi @ 4.44
    17 100% East_Finnish + 0% Bantu_N.E. @ 4.44
    18 100% East_Finnish + 0% Bantu_S.E. @ 4.44
    19 100% East_Finnish + 0% Bantu_S.W. @ 4.44
    20 100% East_Finnish + 0% Bedouin @ 4.44

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    Last bit of results:
    Oracle-X:
    1 Southeast_English 89.96%
    2 Hungarian 5.39%
    3 Danish 2.19%
    4 North_Kannadi 1.12%
    5 Yoruban 1.11%
    6 Spanish_Murcia 0.11%
    7 Iranian 0.11%
    8 French 0.00%
    9 Serbian 0.00%
    10 Austrian 0.00%

    Oracle-4:
    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Southeast_English @ 2.175
    2 Danish @ 4.462
    3 Orcadian @ 4.579
    4 Southwest_English @ 4.878
    5 Dutch @ 4.925
    6 German @ 5.901
    7 Irish @ 6.006
    8 West_Scottish @ 6.069
    9 Norwegian @ 8.936
    10 Swedish @ 10.262
    175 iterations.



    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Southeast_English +50% Southeast_English @ 2.175
    2 50% Danish +50% Southeast_English @ 2.922
    3 50% German +50% Southeast_English @ 2.966
    4 50% Dutch +50% Southeast_English @ 2.972
    5 50% German +50% Southwest_English @ 3.070
    6 50% Orcadian +50% Southeast_English @ 3.144
    7 50% Southeast_English +50% Southwest_English @ 3.366
    8 50% German +50% West_Scottish @ 3.697
    9 50% German +50% Orcadian @ 3.756
    10 50% Dutch +50% Southwest_English @ 3.775
    15400 iterations.



    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Southeast_English +25% German +25% Southeast_English @ 2.005
    2 50% Danish +25% French +25% Southeast_English @ 2.088
    3 50% Danish +25% Danish +25% French @ 2.095
    4 50% Southeast_English +25% Southeast_English +25% Southeast_English @ 2.175
    5 50% Danish +25% French +25% Orcadian @ 2.220
    6 50% Southeast_English +25% German +25% Southwest_English @ 2.257
    7 50% Southeast_English +25% Dutch +25% Southeast_English @ 2.317
    8 50% Southeast_English +25% Danish +25% German @ 2.338
    9 50% Southeast_English +25% Danish +25% Southeast_English @ 2.386
    10 50% Danish +25% Norwegian +25% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.391
    362503 iterations.



    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 German + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 2.005
    2 Danish + Danish + French + Southeast_English @ 2.088
    3 Danish + Danish + Danish + French @ 2.095
    4 Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 2.175
    5 Danish + Danish + French + Orcadian @ 2.220
    6 German + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Southwest_English @ 2.257
    7 Dutch + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 2.317
    8 Danish + French + Orcadian + Southeast_English @ 2.318
    9 Danish + German + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 2.338
    10 Danish + French + Norwegian + Southeast_English @ 2.364
    11 Danish + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 2.386
    12 Danish + Danish + Norwegian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.391
    13 Danish + Danish + French + West_Scottish @ 2.393
    14 Danish + Danish + Spanish_Cataluna + Swedish @ 2.406
    15 French + Norwegian + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 2.414
    16 Danish + French + Southeast_English + West_Scottish @ 2.427
    17 German + Orcadian + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 2.427
    18 Danish + Danish + Dutch + French @ 2.432
    19 Danish + Danish + French + Irish @ 2.446
    20 Danish + French + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 2.451
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    I say this once again people: Option 1 and Option 2 only actually works for the Oracle-X.

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    My maternal uncle's results:

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    Quote Originally Posted by FaerieQueene View Post
    I say this once again people: Option 1 and Option 2 only actually works for the Oracle-X.
    But that is what they are - Oracle X has 2 options, Option 1 and and Option 2...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackson View Post
    But that is what they are - Oracle X has 2 options, Option 1 and and Option 2...
    But I always see some people posting 'results' for Option 1 and Option 2 of Oracle and Oracle-4, when the Option 1 and Option 2 is only actually for Oracle-X.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabatea1 View Post
    1East_Med 34.53
    2 West_Asian 29.92
    3 Red_Sea 10.75
    4 West_Med 9.51
    5 South_Asian 3.89
    6 Baltic 2.33
    7 Sub-Saharan 2.21
    8 North_Atlantic 1.98
    9 Northeast_African 1.41
    10 Siberian 1.29
    11 Oceanian 1.26
    12 Amerindian 0.94

    Single Population Sharing:



    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Azeri_Jewish 6.1
    2 Assyrian 6.97
    3 Georgian_Jewish 7.39
    4 Lebanese_Muslim 9.16
    5 Syrian 9.38
    6 Turkish 9.84
    7 Armenian 10.54
    8 Iranian 11.95
    9 Kurdish 12.43
    10 Jordanian 13.75
    11 Cyprian 14.86
    12 Lebanese_Druze 15
    13 Lebanese_Christian 15.28
    14 Palestinian 15.7
    15 Samaritan 15.98
    16 Bedouin 18.02
    17 Sephardic_Jewish 21.46
    18 Kumyk 22.02
    19 Turkmen 22.3
    20 South_Italian 22.91

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 57.6% Syrian + 42.4% Kurdish @ 2.98
    2 56.6% Syrian + 43.4% Iranian @ 3.14
    3 57.4% Lebanese_Muslim + 42.6% Iranian @ 3.37
    4 52.7% Kurdish + 47.3% Jordanian @ 3.56
    5 59.7% Kurdish + 40.3% Bedouin @ 3.6
    6 74.2% Syrian + 25.8% Abhkasian @ 3.63
    7 57.8% Iranian + 42.2% Samaritan @ 3.68
    8 56.3% Kurdish + 43.7% Palestinian @ 3.73
    9 73.2% Syrian + 26.8% Georgian @ 3.88
    10 53.9% Iranian + 46.1% Jordanian @ 3.98
    11 79.2% Azeri_Jewish + 20.8% Bedouin @ 3.99
    12 73.9% Georgian_Jewish + 26.1% Bedouin @ 4
    13 58.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 41.2% Kurdish @ 4.04
    14 62.1% Palestinian + 37.9% Abhkasian @ 4.04
    15 79.7% Georgian_Jewish + 20.3% Egyptian @ 4.05
    16 64.3% Armenian + 35.7% Bedouin @ 4.05
    17 57.8% Georgian_Jewish + 42.2% Syrian @ 4.07
    18 84.3% Georgian_Jewish + 15.7% Algerian @ 4.14
    19 60.6% Palestinian + 39.4% Georgian @ 4.14
    20 56.9% Kurdish + 43.1% Samaritan @ 4.16

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Kurdish +50% Syrian @ 3.483
    2 50% Jordanian +50% Kurdish @ 3.513
    3 50% Iranian +50% Syrian @ 3.656
    4 50% Iranian +50% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.868
    5 50% Kurdish +50% Palestinian @ 4.238
    6 50% Iranian +50% Jordanian @ 4.239
    7 50% Georgian_Jewish +50% Syrian @ 4.483
    8 50% Iranian +50% Samaritan @ 4.531
    9 50% Kurdish +50% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.600
    10 50% Kurdish +50% Samaritan @ 4.703
    15400 iterations.



    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Syrian +25% Georgian_Jewish +25% Iranian @ 2.587
    2 50% Georgian_Jewish +25% Egyptian +25% Iranian @ 2.596
    3 50% Kurdish +25% Bedouin +25% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.748
    4 50% Georgian_Jewish +25% Egyptian +25% Kurdish @ 2.783
    5 50% Georgian_Jewish +25% Bedouin +25% Iranian @ 2.792
    6 50% Syrian +25% Georgian_Jewish +25% Kurdish @ 2.851
    7 50% Palestinian +25% Georgian +25% Iranian @ 2.857
    8 50% Palestinian +25% Abhkasian +25% Iranian @ 2.919
    9 50% Azeri_Jewish +25% Bedouin +25% Iranian @ 2.972
    10 50% Azeri_Jewish +25% Bedouin +25% Kurdish @ 2.975
    127691 iterations.



    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Armenian + Egyptian + Georgian_Jewish + Iranian @ 2.581
    2 Azeri_Jewish + Bedouin + Georgian_Jewish + Iranian @ 2.581
    3 Bedouin + Georgian + Iranian + Lebanese_Christian @ 2.585
    4 Georgian_Jewish + Iranian + Syrian + Syrian @ 2.587
    5 Egyptian + Georgian_Jewish + Georgian_Jewish + Iranian @ 2.596
    6 Bedouin + Georgian + Iranian + Samaritan @ 2.646
    7 Abhkasian + Egyptian + Iranian + Lebanese_Christian @ 2.666
    8 Armenian + Assyrian + Bedouin + Iranian @ 2.681
    9 Egyptian + Georgian + Iranian + Lebanese_Christian @ 2.687
    10 Bedouin + Georgian_Jewish + Iranian + Turkish @ 2.688
    11 Assyrian + Bedouin + Iranian + Turkish @ 2.690
    12 Abhkasian + Bedouin + Iranian + Samaritan @ 2.690
    13 Azeri_Jewish + Bedouin + Georgian_Jewish + Kurdish @ 2.710
    14 Armenian + Azeri_Jewish + Bedouin + Iranian @ 2.728
    15 Assyrian + Bedouin + Georgian_Jewish + Iranian @ 2.734
    16 Bedouin + Kurdish + Kurdish + Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.748
    17 Bedouin + Georgian + Iranian + Lebanese_Druze @ 2.761
    18 Egyptian + Georgian_Jewish + Georgian_Jewish + Kurdish @ 2.783
    19 Bedouin + Georgian_Jewish + Georgian_Jewish + Iranian @ 2.792
    20 Abhkasian + Bedouin + Iranian + Palestinian @ 2.821
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    Eurogenes K13 Updated ADMIXTURE Proportions

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 38.83
    2 West_Asian 34.23
    3 West_Med 11.96
    4 Red_Sea 8.31
    5 South_Asian 2.25
    6 North_Atlantic 1.72
    7 Baltic 1.37
    8 Oceanian 0.96
    9 Northeast_African 0.26
    10 Siberian 0.1

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Assyrian 2.55
    2 Georgian_Jewish 3.57
    3 Azeri_Jewish 4.01
    4 Armenian 6.32
    5 Lebanese_Muslim 10.62
    6 Turkish 11.72
    7 Kurdish 12.49
    8 Syrian 12.74
    9 Iranian 13.72
    10 Lebanese_Druze 14.42
    11 Cyprian 14.63
    12 Lebanese_Christian 14.66
    13 Samaritan 16.42
    14 Jordanian 16.97
    15 Palestinian 18.29
    16 Georgian 22.18
    17 Bedouin 22.3
    18 Sephardic_Jewish 23.16
    19 Abhkasian 23.23
    20 Kumyk 23.33

    Using 2 populations approximation:

    1 50% Assyrian +50% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.354
    2 50% Assyrian +50% Assyrian @ 2.799
    3 50% Assyrian +50% Azeri_Jewish @ 3.050
    4 50% Armenian +50% Assyrian @ 3.341
    5 50% Azeri_Jewish +50% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.433
    6 50% Georgian_Jewish +50% Georgian_Jewish @ 4.031
    7 50% Azeri_Jewish +50% Azeri_Jewish @ 4.531
    8 50% Armenian +50% Azeri_Jewish @ 4.657
    9 50% Armenian +50% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.768
    10 50% Kurdish +50% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.895
    15400 iterations.

    Using 3 populations approximation:

    1 50% Armenian +25% Georgian_Jewish +25% Lebanese_Christian @ 1.793
    2 50% Georgian_Jewish +25% Armenian +25% Lebanese_Christian @ 1.845
    3 50% Georgian_Jewish +25% Armenian +25% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.043
    4 50% Armenian +25% Georgian_Jewish +25% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.090
    5 50% Assyrian +25% Armenian +25% Assyrian @ 2.199
    6 50% Assyrian +25% Assyrian +25% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.250
    7 50% Lebanese_Christian +25% Abhkasian +25% Armenian @ 2.264
    8 50% Armenian +25% Azeri_Jewish +25% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.307
    9 50% Lebanese_Christian +25% Abhkasian +25% Georgian_Jewish @
    2.345
    10 50% Assyrian +25% Georgian_Jewish +25% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.354
    61558 iterations.

    Using 4 populations approximation:

    1 Armenian + Armenian + Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Christian @ 1.793
    2 Armenian + Georgian_Jewish + Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Christian @ 1.845
    3 Armenian + Georgian_Jewish + Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze @ 2.043
    4 Armenian + Armenian + Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze @ 2.090
    5 Abhkasian + Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Druze @ 2.122
    6 Abhkasian + Armenian + Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Druze @ 2.125
    7 Armenian + Assyrian + Assyrian + Assyrian @ 2.199
    8 Assyrian + Assyrian + Assyrian + Georgian_Jewish @ 2.250
    9 Abhkasian + Armenian + Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Christian @ 2.264
    10 Armenian + Armenian + Azeri_Jewish + Lebanese_Christian @ 2.307
    11 Armenian + Azeri_Jewish + Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Christian @ 2.312
    12 Abhkasian + Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Christian @ 2.345
    13 Assyrian + Assyrian + Georgian_Jewish + Georgian_Jewish @ 2.354
    14 Armenian + Armenian + Georgian_Jewish + Samaritan @ 2.393
    15 Assyrian + Assyrian + Azeri_Jewish + Georgian_Jewish @ 2.403
    16 Armenian + Armenian + Assyrian + Lebanese_Christian @ 2.436
    17 Abhkasian + Armenian + Lebanese_Druze + Samaritan @ 2.460
    18 Abhkasian + Azeri_Jewish + Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Christian @ 2.471
    19 Armenian + Assyrian + Assyrian + Georgian_Jewish @ 2.493
    20 Assyrian + Assyrian + Georgian + Lebanese_Christian @ 2.494

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