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    Quote Originally Posted by barberis12 View Post
    It's likely a mix that appears to be Jewish but isn't .
    ok
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrswan View Post
    ok. but i think from results there could be jewish, ill leave it open. the results doesnt make it impossible that there is jewish i have similar results to anglo-jew except that he is half northern european and im balkan+southasian
    What about the other Eurogenes tests? Some seem more accurate to me.
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    ONEEYE:

    North_Atlantic 46.78%
    Baltic 23.29%
    West_Med 13.14%
    West_Asian 7.82%
    East_Med 5.64%
    Red_Sea 0.48%
    South_Asian -
    East_Asian -
    Siberian -
    Amerindian 1.94%
    Oceanian 0.87%
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan -

    Oracle:

    1 German 3.57
    2 Dutch 4.66
    3 Southeast_English 4.8
    4 Orcadian 5.84
    5 Danish 6.07
    6 Irish 6.37
    7 Southwest_English 6.51
    8 West_Scottish 7.06
    9 Norwegian 8.46
    10 Swedish 9.21

    Oracle 4

    1 Romanian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.715
    2 Irish + Romanian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.751
    3 Irish + Irish + Romanian + West_Scottish @ 2.837
    4 Serbian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.873
    5 Irish + Serbian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.874

    Pct. Calc. Option 2

    0 Unable to determine 0.02%
    1 German 45.99%
    2 West_Scottish 20.33%
    3 Southeast_English 10.60%
    4 Swedish 7.13%
    5 French_Basque 5.98%
    6 Lezgin 4.32%
    7 Spanish_Aragon 4.20%
    8 Mayan 1.01%
    9 Chechen 0.41%
    10 Turkish 0.01%

    Pct. Calc. Option 1

    1 German 48.41%
    2 West_Scottish 41.28%
    3 Tuscan 4.83%
    4 Lezgin 2.69%
    5 French_Basque 1.53%
    6 Mayan 1.26%
    7 Bulgarian 0.00%
    8 Greek 0.00%
    9 Sephardic_Jewish 0.00%
    10 South_Italian 0.00%




    ONEEYE'S MOTHER:

    North_Atlantic 45.09%
    Baltic 27.61%
    West_Med 11.74%
    West_Asian 7.60%
    East_Med 4.72%
    Red_Sea -
    South_Asian -
    East_Asian -
    Siberian 0.43%
    Amerindian 1.57%
    Oceanian 0.46%
    Northeast_African 0.79%
    Sub-Saharan -


    Oracle:

    1 German @ 3.091
    2 Dutch @ 4.358
    3 Swedish @ 6.706
    4 Norwegian @ 6.864
    5 Danish @ 7.446
    6 Orcadian @ 7.730
    7 Southeast_English @ 7.899
    8 Irish @ 8.552
    9 West_Scottish @ 9.663
    10 Southwest_English @ 9.993

    1 German + German + German + Swedish @ 2.158
    2 Austrian + German + Irish + Norwegian @ 2.246
    3 Austrian + German + Irish + Swedish @ 2.250
    4 German + Hungarian + Irish + Norwegian @ 2.259
    5 Austrian + German + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 2.341
    6 German + Hungarian + Irish + Swedish @ 2.352
    7 Austrian + Dutch + Irish + Swedish @ 2.359
    8 German + Hungarian + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.362
    9 German + Hungarian + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 2.391
    10 Austrian + German + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.398


    Pct. Calc. Option 2

    1 German 62.93%
    2 Swedish 23.97%
    3 Irish 5.27%
    4 Chuvash 2.57%
    5 Finnish 1.80%
    6 Spanish_Andalucia 1.27%
    7 Balkar 1.10%
    8 Karitiana 1.08%
    9 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 0.00%
    10 Mari 0.00%

    Pct. Calc. Option 1

    1 German 68.55%
    2 Swedish 26.87%
    3 Chechen 2.01%
    4 Finnish 1.67%
    5 Karitiana 0.87%
    6 Bulgarian 0.01%
    7 Romanian 0.01%
    8 Serbian 0.01%
    9 Chuvash 0.00%
    10 Balkar 0.00%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglojew View Post
    What about the other Eurogenes tests? Some seem more accurate to me.
    on K15 V2 im 50% Ashkenazi Jewish. Aussie said that is most fair for me on 23andme. I dont know.
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    I just saw how to get my Oracle results My results:

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 West_Greenlander 43.78
    2 East_Greenlander 49.17
    3 Spanish_Extremadura 50.23
    4 North_Italian 50.27
    5 Portuguese 50.31
    6 Romanian 50.31
    7 Tuscan 50.36
    8 Bulgarian 50.46
    9 Spanish_Galicia 50.65
    10 Spanish_Murcia 50.67
    11 North_Amerindian 51.17
    12 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 51.2
    13 Serbian 51.41
    14 Greek 51.51
    15 Spanish_Andalucia 51.58
    16 Spanish_Valencia 51.59
    17 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 51.75
    18 Spanish_Cataluna 51.76
    19 Algerian 51.84
    20 French 51.88

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 53.8% Spanish_Galicia + 46.2% Mayan @ 10.21
    2 53.9% Portuguese + 46.1% Mayan @ 10.23
    3 54% Spanish_Extremadura + 46% Mayan @ 10.39
    4 53.8% Spanish_Murcia + 46.2% Mayan @ 10.55
    5 53.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 46.5% Mayan @ 10.65
    6 55.5% Spanish_Galicia + 44.5% Pima @ 10.71
    7 55.7% Spanish_Extremadura + 44.3% Pima @ 10.78
    8 55.7% Portuguese + 44.3% Pima @ 10.78
    9 54% North_Italian + 46% Mayan @ 10.96
    10 53.3% Spanish_Andalucia + 46.7% Mayan @ 11
    11 53.2% Spanish_Cataluna + 46.8% Mayan @ 11.02
    12 55.5% Spanish_Murcia + 44.5% Pima @ 11.04
    13 55.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 44.8% Pima @ 11.14
    14 53.3% Spanish_Valencia + 46.7% Mayan @ 11.21
    15 53.2% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 46.8% Mayan @ 11.3
    16 55.1% Spanish_Andalucia + 44.9% Pima @ 11.31
    17 53.1% Spanish_Cantabria + 46.9% Mayan @ 11.57
    18 55% Spanish_Cataluna + 45% Pima @ 11.57
    19 55.7% North_Italian + 44.3% Pima @ 11.59
    20 59.9% Spanish_Galicia + 40.1% Karitiana @ 11.62

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrswan View Post
    on K15 V2 im 50% Ashkenazi Jewish. Aussie said that is most fair for me on 23andme. I dont know.
    Excactly. That was the test I personally found most accurate. I think you're probably 1/4 Jewish in reality but who knows.
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    here is my harappa world it is good for southasians and also my mdlp which is good for eastern euros
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 NE-Euro 23.93
    2 Caucasian 23.47
    3 Mediterranean 21.36
    4 Baloch 12.30
    5 S-Indian 11.00
    6 SW-Asian 5.03
    7 Papuan 1.06
    8 NE-Asian 0.93
    9 American 0.92


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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 romanian-b @ 16.790
    2 romanian-a @ 17.307
    3 tuscan @ 17.879
    4 tuscan @ 17.942
    5 bulgarian @ 18.122
    6 tuscan @ 18.154
    7 ashkenazi @ 19.049
    8 ashkenazy-jew @ 20.881

    9 italian @ 21.192
    10 serbian @ 21.943
    377 iterations.



    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% romanian-a +50% romanian-b @ 5.004
    2 50% romanian-b +50% serbian @ 6.052
    3 50% bulgarian +50% romanian-b @ 6.068
    4 50% italian +50% romanian-b @ 6.196
    5 50% sephardic-jew +50% singapore-indian-d @ 7.585
    6 50% ashkenazy-jew +50% singapore-indian-d @ 7.611

    7 50% romanian-b +50% tuscan @ 7.613
    8 50% romanian-b +50% tuscan @ 7.683
    9 50% romanian-b +50% tuscan @ 7.912
    10 50% french +50% romanian-b @ 8.200
    71253 iterations.



    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% tuscan +25% bengali-brahmin +25% bulgarian @ 1.890
    2 50% tuscan +25% brahmin-uttar-pradesh +25% bulgarian @ 1.918
    3 50% bulgarian +25% cochin-jew +25% tuscan @ 1.984
    4 50% tuscan +25% bengali-brahmin +25% bulgarian @ 1.987
    5 50% tuscan +25% bulgarian +25% vaish @ 2.023
    6 50% tuscan +25% bihari-muslim +25% bulgarian @ 2.031
    7 50% tuscan +25% bihari-muslim +25% bulgarian @ 2.031
    8 50% tuscan +25% brahmin-uttar-pradesh +25% bulgarian @ 2.075
    9 50% bulgarian +25% cochin-jew +25% tuscan @ 2.076
    10 50% romanian-a +25% cochin-jew +25% tuscan @ 2.121
    5266372 iterations.



    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 bengali-brahmin + bulgarian + tuscan + tuscan @ 1.890
    2 bulgarian + cochin-jew + romanian-a + tuscan @ 1.915
    3 brahmin-uttar-pradesh + bulgarian + tuscan + tuscan @ 1.918
    4 bengali-brahmin + bulgarian + tuscan + tuscan @ 1.928
    5 bulgarian + cochin-jew + romanian-a + tuscan @ 1.961
    6 bulgarian + bulgarian + cochin-jew + tuscan @ 1.984
    7 bengali-brahmin + bulgarian + tuscan + tuscan @ 1.987
    8 brahmin-uttar-pradesh + bulgarian + tuscan + tuscan @ 1.987
    9 bihari-muslim + bulgarian + tuscan + tuscan @ 2.020
    10 bulgarian + tuscan + tuscan + vaish @ 2.023
    11 bihari-muslim + bulgarian + tuscan + tuscan @ 2.031
    12 bihari-muslim + bulgarian + tuscan + tuscan @ 2.031
    13 bengali-brahmin + bulgarian + tuscan + tuscan @ 2.057
    14 brahmin-uttar-pradesh + bulgarian + tuscan + tuscan @ 2.075
    15 bulgarian + bulgarian + cochin-jew + tuscan @ 2.076
    16 bulgarian + tuscan + tuscan + vaish @ 2.077
    17 bulgarian + cochin-jew + romanian-a + tuscan @ 2.091
    18 bihari-muslim + bulgarian + tuscan + tuscan @ 2.115
    19 cochin-jew + romanian-a + romanian-a + tuscan @ 2.121
    20 brahmin-uttar-pradesh + bulgarian + tuscan + tuscan @ 2.125

    could the tuscan be a substitute for jewish? how tuscan, that is italian

    mdlp world22
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North-East-European 27.68
    2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 26.72
    3 West-Asian 18.82
    4 Indian 11.57
    5 Near_East 9.72
    6 Indo-Iranian 1.51
    7 East-South-Asian 1.39
    8 Samoedic 0.96
    9 North-European-Mesolithic 0.89
    10 Austronesian 0.75


    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Romania @ 13.754
    2 Greek_South @ 14.868
    3 Gagauz @ 15.423
    4 Greek_North @ 15.573
    5 Ashkenazim_V @ 15.682
    6 Bulgarian @ 17.343
    7 Tatar_Crim @ 17.502
    8 Jew_Romania @ 18.544
    9 Greek_Center @ 18.837
    10 Macedonian @ 19.290
    276 iterations.



    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Macedonian +50% Roma @ 4.173
    2 50% Bulgarian +50% Roma @ 4.462
    3 50% Roma +50% Serbian @ 4.727
    4 50% Gagauz +50% Roma @ 4.990
    5 50% Montenegrin +50% Roma @ 5.110
    6 50% Bosnian +50% Roma @ 5.673
    7 50% Roma +50% Romania @ 6.591
    8 50% Croatian +50% Roma @ 6.781
    9 50% Hungarian +50% Roma @ 7.241
    10 50% Austrian +50% Roma @ 7.978
    38226 iterations.



    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Serbian +25% Greek_Center +25% Jew_India @ 1.656
    2 50% Serbian +25% Greek_East +25% Jew_India @ 1.695
    3 50% Montenegrin +25% Ashkenazim_V +25% Jew_India @ 1.725
    4 50% Serbian +25% Greek_South +25% Jew_India @ 1.849
    5 50% Serbian +25% Italian-Center +25% Jew_India @ 1.856
    6 50% Serbian +25% Jew_India +25% Jew_Romania @ 1.866
    7 50% Gagauz +25% Jew_India +25% Swiss @ 1.904
    8 50% Montenegrin +25% Greek_South +25% Jew_India @ 1.909
    9 50% Italian-Center +25% Jew_India +25% Polish @ 1.963
    10 50% Macedonian +25% Ashkenazim_V +25% Jew_India @ 1.986
    3264784 iterations.



    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Greek_East + Italian-North + Jew_India + Ukrainian-West @ 1.458
    2 Jew_India + Jew_Romania + Kosovar + Ukrainian-West @ 1.469

    3 Greek_East + Italian-North + Jew_India + Ukrainian_V @ 1.483
    4 Greek_Center + Italian-North + Jew_India + Ukrainian-West @ 1.499
    5 Greek_Cretan + Jew_India + Provancestralal + Ukrainian-West @ 1.506
    6 Greek_Center + Italian-North + Jew_India + Ukrainian_V @ 1.514
    7 Hungarian + Italian-South + Jew_India + Macedonian @ 1.517
    8 Czech + Gagauz + Italian-South + Jew_India @ 1.534
    9 Greek_East + Italian-North + Jew_India + Ukrainian-Center @ 1.535
    10 Bosnian + Italian-South + Jew_India + Serbian @ 1.541
    11 Hungarian + Italian-Center + Jew_India + Macedonian @ 1.551
    12 Croatian + Italian-South + Jew_India + Macedonian @ 1.559
    13 Bulgarian + Hungarian + Italian-Center + Jew_India @ 1.564
    14 Italian-South + Jew_India + Latvian_V + Provancestralal @ 1.566
    15 Jew_India + Jew_Romania + Kosovar + Ukrainian_V @ 1.566
    16 Bulgarian + Italian-South + Jew_India + Slovenian @ 1.570
    17 Greek_South + Jew_India + Macedonian + Serbian @ 1.571
    18 Croatian + Italian-Center + Jew_India + Macedonian @ 1.578
    19 Greek_South + Jew_India + Montenegrin + Serbian @ 1.579
    20 Italian-North + Italian-South + Jew_India + Ukrainian-East @ 1.585

    i dont know what the greek and italian substitutes, but there is indian type ancestry and either balkan or jewish, it is hard to tell i guess when you are southeuropean with roma because it could be a mix which is similar to jewish, i guess in northern europeans it is easier to tell
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrswan View Post
    can any jewish type ancestry be inferred?
    These tests aren't designed for predicting what your ethnicity is, it's for analyzing your genetic affinities to populations in the database.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrousMandaru View Post
    These tests aren't designed for predicting what your ethnicity is, it's for analyzing your genetic affinities to populations in the database.
    how can i know if im jewish?
    “Beloved is man, for he was created in the image of God. Beloved is Israel, for they are called children of God.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglojew View Post
    Welcome to the tribe dude.
    I'm not Jewish, it's just all those populations convey enough genetic similarity to Assyrians, to be used as substitutes for them.

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