Eurogenes K13

[Sizzo]

Spaniard in denial?

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 35.76
2 West_Med 26.6
3 East_Med 22.17
4 Baltic 8.6
5 West_Asian 6.04
6 South_Asian 0.38
7 Red_Sea 0.26
8 East_Asian 0.19
9 Oceanian 0.01


# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Italian 5.74
2 Spanish_Andalucia 8.36
3 Spanish_Valencia 8.69
4 Spanish_Murcia 8.89
5 Spanish_Extremadura 9.03
6 Tuscan 9.39
7 Portuguese 9.44
8 Spanish_Cataluna 10.17
9 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 10.54
10 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 10.75
11 Spanish_Galicia 11.2
12 Spanish_Aragon 12.39
13 Spanish_Cantabria 12.8
14 Southwest_French 14.59
15 French 15.74
16 Greek 19.99
17 Romanian 20.16
18 Bulgarian 20.7
19 South_Italian 21
20 Serbian 21.69

[Maleficent]

Spaniard in denial?

No surprise there. Northern Italians and Iberians are very genetically close to each other.

[ZephyrousMandaru]

[MfA_]

I'm tired of explaining that South Asian like ancestry of West and North Eurasians is ANI, not ASI but hey i'll quote Davidski..

ASI ancestry among the Indian samples in this study is represented by the South Asian, Oceanian and East Asian components. But these three components make up 90-100% of the genetic structure of the Indians. This leaves almost no room for ANI, unless a large part of the South Asian component shared by the Indian samples is in fact ANI.

What this suggests is that the Mal'ta South Asian component is 100% ANI, of the same type that is seen in West Asia and Europe today. This makes sense considering that archeologically the Mal'ta site shows links to European sites where ASI was unlikely to have been present before the Ice Age, and where it's not present today.

The Mal'ta population had archeological and genetic ties with people who were the ancestors of present day Europeans and West Asians, and they passed on their South Asian-like and Oceanian-like admixture to them. So if this is ASI, it's not the same ASI as in South Asia today.

South Asians are more drifted than West Asians and Europeans, so some of the ancestry they share with these groups gets lumped into a South Asian-specific cluster which has nothing to do with the component we know as Ancestral South Asian (ASI).

[Sizzo]

No surprise there. Northern Italians and Iberians are very genetically close to each other.

Are North Italians closer to Tuscans or Iberians?

[Gaston]

I'm tired of explaining that South Asian like ancestry of West and North Eurasians is ANI, not ASI but hey i'll quote Davidski..

Sure but this goes for all components.

But ANI, as its close cousin "West Asian", isn't purely West Eurasian though:

Do you think then that the West_Med, East_Med and West_Asian components are composed of majority Neolithic alleles?

West Med and East Med should be purely Neolithic, but West Asian is heavily mixed, and probably has a lot of that Eurasian mammoth-steppe influence that came out South Asian in the study of the Mal'ta genome.

[MfA_]

Sure but this goes for all components.

But ANI, as its close cousin "West Asian", isn't purely West Eurasian though:

''South Asia'' label here is South Asia according to todays admixures, not same as the Mal'ta boy's era. Mal'ta boy's ''South Asia'' mixed with ASI people at neolithic, which wasn't South Asia before that time, it is some sort of Central Asian. And we know that Central Asia was part of West Eurasian continuum until Bronze age.

Jackson here's the dendogram at macro settings.. I don't think it is solid for everyone, some may fall into a sister micro clade..

[Black Wolf]

''South Asia'' label here is South Asia according to todays admixures, not same as the Mal'ta boy's era. Mal'ta boy's ''South Asia'' mixed with ASI people at neolithic, which wasn't South Asia before that time, it is some sort of Central Asian. And we know that Central Asia was part of West Eurasian continuum until Bronze age.

Jackson here's the dendogram at macro settings.. I don't think it is solid for everyone, some may fall into a sister micro clade..

Do you know what the ancestry of the individual called Bubbles is? I am right next to him/her on the dendogram. I am closer to that person there than I am to my own brother.

[MfA_]

Do you know what the ancestry of the individual called Bubbles is? I am right next to him/her on the dendogram. I am closer to that person there than I am to my own brother.

I don't know who Bubbles, Gorilla, Blondie are, SeaWarrior send them to me.. Somesort of Euro mutts from US I guess..

[Black Wolf]

I don't know who Bubbles, Gorilla, Blondie are, SeaWarrior send them to me.. Somesort of Euro mutts from US I guess..

Either way my results again seem to make me land somewhere in Central Europe.