Is West Asian a European component?

**VAARON** · 12-26-2013, 03:03 PM

no , asia is not in europe

**orangepulp** · 12-26-2013, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by gregorius

If you add your caucasus and gedrosia you;; have your west asian component.

Caucasus+ Gedrosia+ Southwest Asian. In total I am 77.4% West Asian with k12b

I think the Caucasus in this calculator may contain some East med.

**orangepulp** · 12-26-2013, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by Solin

I have explained to you that they are not the same even if they are not used in the same calc simultaneously nor how could they because I explained it very nicely using Oetzi example.

So what is Southern in k7b is the question then. It could be equal to East Med since it also significant in West Asian populations. Again may contain no Euro.

**orangepulp** · 12-26-2013, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by chwarae

People, you should forget all these old components: ancient DNA made them obsolete just before Christmas.

Can you link me the site?

**Damião de Góis** · 12-26-2013, 03:18 PM

West Asia on V3 should be the right component to look at:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...COCa89AJ#gid=0

**Gaston** · 12-26-2013, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by orangepulp

Can you link me the site?

Of course, here is the link of the paper. (check the supplements).
You can also read the about the study in Dienekes' blog, Eurogenes blog and For what they were we are blog.

**Insuperable** · 12-26-2013, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by orangepulp

So what is Southern in k7b is the question then. It could be equal to East Med since it also significant in West Asian populations. Again may contain none Euro.

Southern itself can be expresses only in terms of k12 components and vice versa. They are nothing by itself. Southern expressed in terms of k12b is a mix of AtlanticMed, SWA and minor Northwest African. But judging by Oetzi example it doesn't have to mean that someone has specific mixes. Id say that judging by K12b and K7b Greeks turn out to be 35-40% non-European and not 50%.

And see my edited post btw.

**Black Wolf** · 12-26-2013, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by chwarae

Of course, here is the link of the paper. (check the supplements).
You can also read the about the study in Dienekes' blog, Eurogenes blog and For what they were we are blog.

It would be amazing if Polako could create a new calculator for these components from this new study but I don't know if that will ever happen or not.

**Gaston** · 12-26-2013, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by Jaxman

It would be amazing if Polako could create a new calculator for these components from this new study but I don't know if that will ever happen or not.

Yeah, I agree with you. He needs the data though, which is going to take some time to get I guess. I'm sure it'll happen one day, and I'm personally most curious about how much of the new ancestry called "Basal Eurasian" I would get.

**Black Wolf** · 12-26-2013, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by chwarae

Yeah, I agree with you. He needs the data though, which is going to take some time to get I guess. I'm sure it'll happen one day, and I'm personally most curious about how much of the new ancestry called "Basal Eurasian" I would get.

I am quite curious about the ''Basal Eurasian'' ancestry as well. Seems like it could be Proto-Mediterranean or something.