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    Err..... no. Let's rather have a united Ireland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antonio View Post
    The true is that I cannot see at present day (with Gaelic being just a populated areas) differences massive enough -apart from History and Religion- to justify two different states being maintained at British Islands
    Naaah, no differences at all. It's all in the imagination. After all the Irish got violently independent after eight centuries just for the laugh. It's like the Scots, they only "make noise" because they're bored. In fact if you ask anyone in the streets of Glasgow they'll secretly admit they keep a photo of the Queen under the pillow
    Fortunately there is no need to "justify" anything. Only the Irish decide about their future, and it'll be what they want it to be. As it should be.
    Next thing will be saying that Spain and Portugal should unite in one big Iberian state and so on because they're so similar and they're neighbours and it'd be good for the economy, right? The wet dream of many Spaniards since Queen Isabel after all.
    But I'm afraid ethnic/cultural groups in Europe want to be differentiated and separated, and history evidences that "experiments" at creating fake centralised states in Europe without agreement of the parts always end up badly. May it take a few years or eight centuries.

    I guess Europeans are particularly stubborn Glad we are, mind you.

    Quote Originally Posted by antonio View Post
    BTW, Galicia has far more in common with England that with Ireland, just by acknowleding the deep impact of Romans and Germanics peoples on its innermost essence, so I just can't get it -apart from Milesian legends- the perennial brotherhood between Irish activistist and Galician ones
    You said it: "perennial brotherhood". There must be a reason for that...
    Same pre-historical cultural background (radically influencing modern folklore, tradition and popular culture)? Same political situation? Same shared problems of territorial structure? same social fractures over the centuries? famine? emigration? In fact, there's a plethora of similar historical events that shaped the psychology of both peoples in a similar way, different to their neighbours.
    England was a world imperial power for centuries. Galicia has been isolated for long periods of time. England is predominantly Germanic despite other influences. Galicia is predominantly Roman in legal and political organisation and pre-Roman (Celtic) in culture, with touches of Germanic (Swabians were politically important, very much so, not culturally). England created its own "flavour" of Christianity. Galicia's capital, Compostela, is the third holiest city in Catholicism after Rome and Jerusalem. Galicia was refuge for fleeing Irish families and Irish troops were trained there in the wars against England. etc. etc.
    Damn, there's endless literature about it. There even are Irish research centres in Galicia and Galician ones in Ireland.

    But hey, just my imagination I guess
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Celts have always done better under Germanic rule. But eh, maybe these days we've go to leave them to their own devices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Paul View Post
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    Just pulling your leg matey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Just pulling your leg matey.
    I know you never meant it seriously.. that's why you were given a disparaging look .
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    Originally Posted by Bridie
    I wouldn't recommend it. All it means is that the Queen gets the final say on issues that don't even concern Britain, a portion of your tax-payer's monies go straight overseas and if the poms go to war, you have to support them, even though they are unlikely to support you should you ever need them.
    It’s about time the Aussies, Kiwis and Canadians got rid of the Queen as head of state, mind it’s about time we did, if I had my way the royals would be exiled/executed, either one is just as good. I really detest all that pomp and bull shit; government should meet in a field somewhere on a hill over a jug of cider.
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    I say unite Britain into an Irish dominion. At least I'd get a funky looking passport and a legitimate reason to use my dodgy Irish accent to get girls to buy me drinks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Celts have always done better under Germanic rule. But eh, maybe these days we've go to leave them to their own devices.
    Who knows what the Celts could've achieved if the Romans didn't obliterate the Celts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Blackbeard View Post
    I say unite Britain into an Irish dominion. At least I'd get a funky looking passport and a legitimate reason to use my dodgy Irish accent to get girls to buy me drinks.
    Your wife certainly won't approve of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hippaforalkus View Post
    Your wife certainly won't approve of this.
    Speaking in her name? Or perhaps you guys've been hiding some little secret from us?

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