View Poll Results: Do you help Africa?

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Thread: Do you help Africa?

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    No money for Africa. I donate some Euros to German homeless people and to a women's refuge here around Hamburg habitually.

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    I think it's pretty funny that we are so concerned with helping Africa when we've got tons of Europeans who aren't as well-off as most of us. For instance in Bosnia and parts of former Yugoslavia people live on just $200/mo in rural areas and less populated parts of the country. Moldova is another good example, I don't think they live on more than $2 a day.

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    Other; I donate to the Apricity and today I also decided to donate to a dog shelter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfhere View Post
    I think my countrymen in the 19th and early 20th centuries did more than enough to try and help Africa, only to be told to fuck of.
    Uhm, not that my heart is bleeding for the poor natives but what you're claiming is simply not true. Your countrymen were primarily helping themselves to large slices of Africa with a little window-dressing "help" thrown in for PR purposes.

    Colonisation, exploitation and enslavement does not equal charity, last time I checked. up
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hippaforalkus View Post
    We need more of this:
    Send the white skank to Africa, Europe has no use for her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hippaforalkus View Post
    I think it's pretty funny that we are so concerned with helping Africa when we've got tons of Europeans who aren't as well-off as most of us. For instance in Bosnia and parts of former Yugoslavia people live on just $200/mo in rural areas and less populated parts of the country. Moldova is another good example, I don't think they live on more than $2 a day.
    I don't think anyone is concerned about helping Africa. People only want to help themselves and those they care about...and those near them they don't care about (once in a while, when they are in a particularily good mood). This whole "we must help Africa", "I am so sorry for their suffering", etc. etc. is pure hypocritical BS.

    That was the whole point of this thread - to show that no one cares. It almost worked. Looks like Loki cares though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldritch View Post
    In other words:

    Development aid = redistribution of wealth from the poor in rich countries to the rich in poor countries.
    Yes that also applies, but more specifically it's from the gullible middleclass in rich countries to the Elites and Rich in rich countries. The rich in poor countries get the crumbs. The poor in the poor countries... well, they get nothing of course.

    Remember, most of that so-called "Aid" probably never even makes it to Africa even though the claimed intention by Western "NGO's" (NGO's are usually fronts for Intelligence Agencies) and Governments is to use it for this purpose.

    National Statistics claiming "country X spent so many millions / billions on foreign aid" are completely meaningless without an exhaustive analysis on the accounts. If one spends a bit more time poking through the books and figures you'll probably find that huge sums of money were paid to contractors and suppliers in the rich Western Country (naturally they are on first name terms with the politicians who decide on these expenditures) to supply supposed "relief materials".

    Those materials are usually expired / near expired medicines (worthless), surplus GM Foods (so of course the GM companies get a foot in the door in the already suffering country's agricultural sector), other goods probably worth a fraction of what the Government paid for with our taxes.

    In Africa itself the local ruling mobsters will naturally cream off and resell whatever materials do turn up. Oh... there'll be a staged happy photo opportunity with some AP footage for a little "feel-good" News Insert showing happy skinny natives with huge toothy grins eagerly grabbing "food aid" or whatever was sent their way.

    Whitey in Europe will watch this spectacle unfold on TV and congratulate him / herself for being so generous to the poor children of nature and go to bed feeling all warm and fuzzy inside, happy in the knowledge that he / she lives in such a civilised Western country which does so much "good" for the less priviliged.

    Oh well.....call me cynical but that's my view of "charity".

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    Quote Originally Posted by nisse View Post
    I don't think anyone is concerned about helping Africa. People only want to help themselves and those they care about...and those near them they don't care about (once in a while, when they are in a particularily good mood). This whole "we must help Africa", "I am so sorry for their suffering", etc. etc. is pure hypocritical BS.
    That's right. Most people don't really even care about THEIR OWN culture countrymen / women, never mind "Africans" or whatever.

    It's just that when it comes to the West in particular, people have been brainwashed into acting and thinking along politically correct terms. They're mortified of being exposed for "not caring about the poor 3d world" or "global warming" or "offending anybody" blah blah blah so they go along with this act, in the process more or less convincing even themselves!

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    My country is currently leading the MINUSTAH, which is the United Nations Stabilization Mission In Haiti, a country that can be considered part of Africa. Of course part of the taxes I pay go for it.
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    People starve, people die, they get crushed in earthquakes and drown in floods, it’s not nice and I don’t take pleasure in it, but I am indifferent, it is the way of the world, and their problems won’t be alleviated in the long term by large amounts of cash (nor in the short term either if we are honest), people (singular and plural) rise or fall on their own efforts and merits, of course nature plays a part but it is a singular human judgement to claim “fairness” and “justice” where there is none.

    Humans call nature “cruel” and life “unfair”, which says fascinating things about humans but less about the nature of reality.
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