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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan_Dusan View Post
    Actually I know a lot about them. I don't think you do however. They are still in Kosovo, with Albanian names, many of them now identify as Albanians. Serbs themselves don't like them and never have and Gorani's slowly assimilate into Albanians.
    Lol, sure you do, from America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skerdilaid View Post
    Lol, sure you do, from America.
    And you from Canada right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan_Dusan View Post
    And you from Canada right?
    I go there every year, and visit Prizren every time, so I know how they are and what we think of them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skerdilaid View Post
    You claimed that we settled in Kosova at 1400s under Ottomans, and now you are saying you weren't under Ottomans .During the second Kosova battle, Kosova was an Ottoman vassal state under Brankovic.
    No, I'm saying there was hardly any Albanians in 1400s in Kosovo. Not just 1400s, but 1500s. Not just 1500s but 1600s. The first century you were a significant minority was 1700s. And the first century you became a majority was 1800s.

    And which Brankovic was a vassal? The Ottomans had to invade under the reign of Tomashevic to finally bring Kosovo under Ottoman authority after Scanderbeg had died.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skerdilaid View Post
    I go there every year, and visit Prizren every time, so I know how they are and what we think of them
    Yea I know what you like to believe my pure Drenicak, but reality is:

    1)Serbians regard them as Albanians
    2)They have Albanian names and try to be Albanians, and many of them have already become this

    The fact they're still significant in village around Prizren should tell you they're not Serbian collaborators.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan_Dusan View Post
    No, I'm saying there was hardly any Albanians in 1400s in Kosovo. Not just 1400s, but 1500s. Not just 1500s but 1600s. The first century you were a significant minority was 1700s. And the first century you became a majority was 1800s.

    And which Brankovic was a vassal? The Ottomans had to invade under the reign of Tomashevic to finally bring Kosovo under Ottoman authority after Scanderbeg had died.
    Sure thing we were. Check his involvement in the second battle of Kosova.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skerdilaid View Post
    Sure thing we were. Check his involvement in the second battle of Kosova.
    Yeah what about that this second battle? Hungarian led initiative. Why don't you show me the break down of this battle, how many were Albanians, and what area of Kosovo these Albanians were from.

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    The ethnic composition of Kosovo's population during this period included Serbs, Albanians, and Vlachs along with a token number of Greeks, Armenians, Saxons, and Bulgarians, according to Serbian monastic charters or chrysobulls (Hrisovulja). A majority of the given names in the charters are overwhelmingly Serbian (Of 24,795 names, 23,774 were ethnic Serb names, 470 of Roman origin, 65 of Albanian origin and 61 of Greek origin).

    The essentially Serbian composition of medieval Kosovo's population is corroborated by Ottoman defters, showing that Serbs were majority until the 17th century.

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    If you think that only 30,000 people lived in the today's territory of Kosova back then, then I will let you believe what you want. Only the the raja were recorded that adhered to the Church, and Ottomans never controlled all Kosova. Albanian tribal settlements were never recorded, and even by Dusan they were exempt from taxes because they provided mercenaries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skerdilaid View Post
    If you think that only 30,000 people lived in the today's territory of Kosova back then, then I will let you believe what you want. Albanian tribal settlements were recorded, and even by Dusan they were exempt from taxes because they provided mercenaries.
    lol.

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