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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    It is. It has been violent since its inception.
    What's wrong with these people ? They never boughtered to understand the very core beliefs of islam ? Islam = death to all non-muslims. That's the way it is. From day one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post

    Stewart Dickson of the Alliance Party said: "As first minister, Peter Robinson has a duty to represent the country and I am dismayed by his comments that he would only trust a Muslim to get him something from a shop.

    "That is extremely demeaning and disrespectful to an entire religiion
    He does have a point though. Islam encourages takiya (deception for the cause of Allah) and also commands Muslims to distrust non-Muslims and not associate with them.

    Islam is attacked not because Muhammad was a man of his time and did not know any better but because of the Sharia Law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    Anything in the Bible about stoning people.
    That is not a Christian teaching but an ancient law of an ancient people that lived 3000 BC. You need to undertand that the Old Tdstament is not a prescriptive book like the Quran is, but it is descriptive in nature.

    Those archaic Jewish laws in the Torah are not eternal commands valid for all times and places. Christians look back at the Old Testament through the vision of Jesus.

    For Christians, Jesus’ interpretation of these laws is final. He takes away their sharp sting with his death on the cross and by his sinless life and divine love.

    The "law of God" in the Bible is based on the concept of "an eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth." This is the natural law of cause and effect; what goes up must come down; do unto others and the same will be done to you; live by the sword and you will die by the sword; you reap what you sow; every action has an equal and opposite reaction; the law of karma, etc... This is the law of nature and the law of the physical realm. While the effects of this law can be seen everywhere, there exists an even greater law revealed from higher sources. It is the law of love - forgiveness and grace. When someone strikes you in the face, you should not strike back. This will stop the vicious cycle of hurt in its tracks. It means loving even your enemies. It means unconditional love. The best way to undo "bad karma" is through love and forgiveness. Like love, forgiveness is a divine trait because God forgives everyone. Actually, NDE testimonies reveal there is really nothing for God to forgive us for. God allows us to make mistakes for higher reasons. God is love (1 John 4:16) and love keeps no record of wrongs (1 Corinthians.13:4-5). In fact, love removes a multitude of sins (1 Peter 4:8). Therefore, the law of God is love (Romans 13:10). The commandment of God is love (John 15:12). Love is the very gospel of God (John 3:16). Jesus taught how the way to eternal life is through love (Luke 10:25-28). Everyone who loves is "born of God" and knows God (1 John 4:7). We know we are "saved" if we love others (1 John 3:14). Love is the sign of being a disciple of Christ (John 13:35). Without love we are nothing (1 Corinthians 13:2). Without love we gain nothing (1 Corinthians 13:3). So faith alone without works of love is dead (James 2:17). The Kingdom of heaven can be found within ourselves (Luke 17:20).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    She doesn't seem to know much about Islam.
    Yes, funny how we need to be convinced of this constantly?
    Spoiler!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    Islam in and of itself by its teachings is no more violent than other religions, but for some reason it has produced a lot of religious extremism.
    very true, i think it produces more because of the enviroment that muslims tend to grow up in (not saying its bad, i actually admire how tribal and how preservative of their culture they are) are not as "civilized" as lets say Spain or something. Now it is happening to muslims outside the middle east because they see and i think for the most part deeply influenced how their middle eastern counter parts act

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raine View Post
    That is not a Christian teaching but an ancient law of an ancient people that lived 3000 BC. You need to undertand that the Old Tdstament is not a prescriptive book like the Quran is, but it is descriptive in nature.

    Those archaic Jewish laws in the Torah are not eternal commands valid for all times and places. Christians look back at the Old Testament through the vision of Jesus.

    For Christians, Jesus’ interpretation of these laws is final. He takes away their sharp sting with his death on the cross and by his sinless life and divine love.
    Torah law (to my understanding) only applies to Jews and people living inside Israel, gentiles really are only recquired to follow the seven Noachide commandments to be considered righteous

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