View Poll Results: what is for bosniaks national identity more important, being slavic or being muslims??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hrulj View Post
    And Serbs and Croats are examples of blondeness today, without Islam

    I guess Islam makes you blonde, just look at Arabs

    Sorry, I wont make fun of you anymore, your mental state is punishment enough

    In case you didnt realize yet, i do not answer yo your Turkish messages Hamza. Keep up with good work now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vojnik View Post
    Being of the Islamic faith almost forces you in way to forget about your heritage and focus and dedicate your life primarily to Islam. As Bosniaks are predominantly Muslims, I would say that their religion is more important then their Slavic heritage.
    LOL fucking balcanic subhumans

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guapo View Post
    Of course, they came from Slavic ureheimat as serbs and croats, wait they didnt exist before 7th century.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    In case you didnt realize yet, i do not answer yo your Turkish messages Hamza. Keep up with good work now.
    I dont mind. You are scared of Bosniak intelect, so all you can do is try to lie to foreigners. I cant imagine how hard it is for you to sleep at night, knowing how you are dying out in Bosnia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucifer View Post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hrulj View Post
    I do. Which is why I ask you to name me documents which mention crowning of Tomislav there, or where the Borders of Croatia are (Not borders of Francia) otherwise Bosnia Ruled entire Croatia as part of Bosnia Eyalet
    What is the reason of posting a map of 1390 Bosnia when by that time Bosnia for 200 years I think was a separate region with their own king and beliefs and claiming "yeah those are true borders" which only lasted for several years? You really think every is static. It is one thing to post a 400 year older map, but that is different thing.

    Bosnia before that was a small region in modern central Bosnia. It was a small region which grew very much in a short time under Kulin and Tvrtko I due to various reason like black death which led to poor situation in "neighboring" parts, Mongol invasion, struggle between Venetian, Hungarians rule at the time led perfect conditions for expansion...

    All this is a common history by now. Btw Bosnia Eyalat is a redundant topic here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Crow View Post
    shhhhh watch out you might offend them by telling them this.
    Why the hell would anyone here be offended by that? Do tell...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kiyant View Post
    You are right parts of Bosnia were part of the first Croatian Kingdom
    Actually, the whole of Bosnia excluding Hum were. Bosnia became free when the Kingdom of Hungary conquered the Kingdom of Croatia, being unable to take Bosnia (all tho they tried many times). Bosnia then began expansion, even taking Dalmatia from the Hungarian crown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucifer View Post
    i don't care how long it lasted, it's just to show people who don't know history of balkans that bosnia isn't croatia or serbia as some people like to present it with maps of the 10th century.
    It obviously isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solin View Post
    What is the reason of posting a map of 1390 Bosnia when by that time Bosnia for 200 years I think was a separate region with their own king and beliefs and claiming "yeah those are true borders" which only lasted for several years? You really think every is static. It is one thing to post a 400 year older map, but that is different thing.

    Bosnia before that was a small region in modern central Bosnia. It was a small region which grew very much in a short time under Tvrtko I due to various reason like black death which led to poor situation in "neighboring" parts, Mongol invasion, struggle between Venetian, Hungarians rule at the time led perfect conditions for expansion...

    All this is a common history by now. Btw Bosnia Eyalat is a redundant topic here.
    And Croats, a nomadic people who moved to Croatia simply had enough numbers to cover not only the entire teritory of Croatia, but also of Bosnia. Seems legit.
    Secondly, reformulate the first sentence. I dont understand what you are trying to say.
    But here is a question even better. What is the reason of posting a map based on speculation? We can make a map of Bosnia at that time based on peace treaties, diplomatic material preserved at Dubrovnik archives and so on. But there are no documents mentioning the Crowning of Tomislav, nevermind the teritory he ruled.

    Again, not under Tvrtko but under his pre-predecesor, Stjepan I Kotromanic of Bosnia. He is the man who expanded the most. Tvrtko simply expanded on teritories he got his claim on. His mother was from Subic family so he took the lands of Subic. His grandma was from Nemanjic dinasty, so he took the lands of Nemanjic dinasty and split it.

    Also, you talk like the Black death simply evaded Bosniaks, or that Bosniaks were immune to it.
    Mongol invasion hardly hit Croatia at all, and although it did hit neighbouring countries, it led to their greater militarization compared to Bosnia.

    (The fall of Rome, barbarian invasions etc, led to perfect conditions for Slavic invasions, so what is your point)

    It is redundant topic, just as Francian province of Croatia is. If Francian province of Croatia is relevant, then so is Bosnian Eyalet, since both are products of foreign powers
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