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Let us leave modern men to their ‘truths’ and let us only be concerned about one thing: to keep standing amid a world of ruins.
- Julius Evola "Handbook of traditional living"
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Last edited by Lucifer; 08-12-2014 at 06:05 PM.
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What is the reason of posting a map of 1390 Bosnia when by that time Bosnia for 200 years I think was a separate region with their own king and beliefs and claiming "yeah those are true borders" which only lasted for several years? You really think every is static. It is one thing to post a 400 year older map, but that is different thing.
Bosnia before that was a small region in modern central Bosnia. It was a small region which grew very much in a short time under Kulin and Tvrtko I due to various reason like black death which led to poor situation in "neighboring" parts, Mongol invasion, struggle between Venetian, Hungarians rule at the time led perfect conditions for expansion...
All this is a common history by now. Btw Bosnia Eyalat is a redundant topic here.
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Why the hell would anyone here be offended by that? Do tell...
Actually, the whole of Bosnia excluding Hum were. Bosnia became free when the Kingdom of Hungary conquered the Kingdom of Croatia, being unable to take Bosnia (all tho they tried many times). Bosnia then began expansion, even taking Dalmatia from the Hungarian crown.
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And Croats, a nomadic people who moved to Croatia simply had enough numbers to cover not only the entire teritory of Croatia, but also of Bosnia. Seems legit.
Secondly, reformulate the first sentence. I dont understand what you are trying to say.
But here is a question even better. What is the reason of posting a map based on speculation? We can make a map of Bosnia at that time based on peace treaties, diplomatic material preserved at Dubrovnik archives and so on. But there are no documents mentioning the Crowning of Tomislav, nevermind the teritory he ruled.
Again, not under Tvrtko but under his pre-predecesor, Stjepan I Kotromanic of Bosnia. He is the man who expanded the most. Tvrtko simply expanded on teritories he got his claim on. His mother was from Subic family so he took the lands of Subic. His grandma was from Nemanjic dinasty, so he took the lands of Nemanjic dinasty and split it.
Also, you talk like the Black death simply evaded Bosniaks, or that Bosniaks were immune to it.
Mongol invasion hardly hit Croatia at all, and although it did hit neighbouring countries, it led to their greater militarization compared to Bosnia.
(The fall of Rome, barbarian invasions etc, led to perfect conditions for Slavic invasions, so what is your point)
It is redundant topic, just as Francian province of Croatia is. If Francian province of Croatia is relevant, then so is Bosnian Eyalet, since both are products of foreign powers
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