March of the Titans

[Osweo]

Horrible book written by a clueless nordicist dude who looks southern.



Totally simplistic, innacurate... this book is an insult against historians

I couldn't agree more, but I would like to point out that the all too predictable mockery of his personal features isn't very helpful in defeating his arguments.

I mean, he's a stubby, chubby, rather silly looking person, and perhaps even I'm more 'Nordic' than him (and perhaps by his own reasoning he should bow down to what I say on historical matters!), but the most important thing is rather to reveal the basic errors at play in his scribblings. Going on about the facial features might be read as mere hurt pride or expected 'lashing out' from the sort he characterises as near sub-humans - almost proving him right, indeed.

I´m reading right now about Spain in this March of the Titans crap and I´ve already noticed a good set of nosensical statements

I didn't DARE read the Spanish section. It's infamous. Perhaps when I'm in the mood to be appalled, dismayed and generally pissed off, I'll have a look through it.

But what the FUCK does this joker think he's achieving with all this? Is he mistaken, an honest fool? Christ, he'd be a perfect 'plant' put by our enemies to discredit simple decent nationalism, but I fear that our enemies have all their work done for them by our own crazies.

no wonder all the racialist sites on the net are so full of utter bullshit,ignorance of history,and crap in general.

Exactly. The Rojos must love the man.

respectfully - these criticisms
might demonstrate a more suasive affect,
if, accompanied by some evidence.

mere bald declarations (mockery)
might be considered insufficient by thoughtfull readers.

Oh man, he hints that the 'Latini' were 'Germans'... It's surely not worth my time to address EVERY point.

Acadian Driftwood has or had a signature on here something like;
'If your arguments are weak, just smother your opponant in bullshit.' And there's a good point there. You can attack by sheer quantity when quality is beyond you. Refuting bullshit is always harder work than concocting it.
Do you REALLY think the best response to such a stratagem is to waste your time going through every single point? I'm asking this as a serious question. I do at least try now and then to be sensible in what I choose to bother myself with, and what I will 'let slide'. I try to be at least partially 'politic'. As an example; Can certain bugbears of 20th Century history be defended and have they been slandered? Sure, but is it sensible and useful to expend effort on that at this particular moment in time? Might a concentration on certain issues do more harm than good? In such a vein, I believe that Kemp's work should be dismissed as quickly and effectively as possible, and we should move ON, rather than get bogged down in trivia.

As I see it, Kemp's message relies on him being perceived as a 'man who knows his history', a man who has penetrated to the true essence behing the facts. I find this hard to uphold, when I see what a poor master of facts he actually is.

There are STUPID mistakes in the book. REALLY STUPID! So much so, that it beggars belief. Isn't this enough to damn the whole message?

I'll take at least one of the points I summarily dismissed, to highlight again what the man is like with the facts;

Originally from Asia Minor (Turkey), the Khazars

Just plain wrong.

The Khazars were a mixture of several peoples. NONE of which were from Anatolia. The Turkic element was from the Central Asian Steppe. The Jewish element had mostly come up from the Fertile Crescent via the eastern Caucasus, there was a local element of Hunnic/Sarmatian background, and probably a Caucasian base too. Their capital was in the Volga delta, but they had old settlements along the River Terek (which passes through modern Chechnya.

How can we trust a man who makes such sorry mistakes? Has he done NO background reading? Has he read, but been too dense to understand the words in front of him? Did he write the whole book on the train to work, without any notes whatsoever?

To my mind, habitually linking to it does a good deal to discredit yourself and anything you might say, which is a damned shame.

as suggested by ullarsskald,
you may find this smilie appropriate:

Heh, but I'm afraid it's more this;

[Curtis24]

I´m reading right now about Spain in this March of the Titans crap and I´ve already noticed a good set of nosensical statements

Yeah, this kind of outlines his major (flawed) argument, which is that the rise and fall of civilizations/empires is caused exclusively by racial changes.

Since we know that in the 17th century Spain became less powerful, and France and England more powerful, Kemp has to find a racial reason for it. The one he comes up with - mass miscegenation with black slaves combined with mass Gypsy immigration - is indeed laughable.

[Don]

The odds which prevailed at the Battle of Cajamarca were to be repeated even more dramatically a further four times:

at the Battle of Jauja, 80 Spaniards defeated an Inca army of tens of thousands;

at the Battle of Vilcashuaman, 30 Spaniards defeated tens of thousands of Inca opponents;

at the Battle of Vilaconoga, 10 Spaniards defeated an army of tens of thousands of Incas; and

at the battle of Cuzco, 40 Spaniards defeated the last great Inca army, also consisting of tens of thousands of Inca warriors.

Was the flu... the flu...

...

Germans the First Colonists
Up until 1529, White settlements in South America had been passing in nature: and despite the Spanish and Portuguese doing most of the exploring, it was a German, Bartholomous Welser, who led the first attempt at a White colony on the continent.

LOL,

just

LOL,

bliblabla dungeons & dragons

Ah... the nordicist tendencies to inventions and fantasies... we, spaniards don't have that problem, we only have to take a look at our history, kinda mythic and awesome, but real...

... the problem is that our stigma make us to, slowly, forget and ban our history (uncompatible with the big plans of ethnocide for us) in favour to the multikulti and invasion.

Anyway, these kind of childish inventions and style of telling our history is contraproductive for all of us.

[Liffrea]

It is, to put it mildly, poor and cringe worthy, I bought a copy from the BNP and spent most of my time either laughing or chocking, needless to say it is relegated to the can I give it away or e bay it shelf of my collection.

I’ve seen Kemp speak at a BNP meeting, it wasn’t about his book. He did make some reasonable points about nationalism but much of it was the usual groan worthy BS of those who probably know they will never have to do anything they say so why not say what they like.

Probably one reason I lost interest in the BNP and politics in general.

[Joe McCarthy]

I think it's safe to say that Kemp is a better thinker and writer than most of his critics on this thread. His blog is actually somewhat interesting.

[Ibericus]

I think it's safe to say that Kemp is a better thinker and writer than most of his critics on this thread. His blog is actually somewhat interesting.

indeed for a fantasy novel he would be better, but here there are people with much more knowledge of history than this clueless nutjob. It's not that hard though.

[Matritensis]

I think it's safe to say that Kemp is a better thinker and writer than most of his critics on this thread. His blog is actually somewhat interesting.

Possibly.Once he gets his facts straight and read some history books I see him getting all kinds of prizes easily.

[Aramis]

Kemp has a political agenda, nothing new there. What I find disgusting is his obvious abuse of serious scientific disciplines for self-promotion.

[Cato]

Kemp has a political agenda, nothing new there. What I find disgusting is his obvious abuse of serious scientific disciplines for self-promotion.

He also betrays a sound lack of folklore-based knowledge about the Amerinds, which is what sticks in my craw when he slyly insinutates that taking scalps and cannibalism were features universal to the red people.

[Great Dane]

I have not read the March of the Titans in its entirety. But the main theme I picked up was that race is destiny. Look at cities like Detroit and Cleveland, built by Northern Europeans. Non-whites, mainly blacks and later Hispanics, move in and destroy what the white race created. The same process is going on in California. Look at South Africa since the ANC took control. So maybe Nordic supermen didn't build the pyramids but that doesn't that ethnic and racial divisions have not contributed to the collapse of past empires.