Eurogenes ANE K7 - post your results

**Fire Haired** · 09-12-2014, 01:01 AM

Originally Posted by Jusarius

Again, try to understand that as you increase the resolution (more components), most of the original ones are broken into separate new ones. For example WHG+UHG isn't equal to WHG in Lazardis. No population in Europe perfectly fitted the three populations model of Lazardis which means that the components in that masked something else.

Did you read Laz? Europeans fitting as descending from three ancestral populations was their big discovery. Maybe they don't trace every last drop of their blood to those populations, but we shouldn't see scored at 1% in east Eurasian or Sub Saharan.

**Jusarius** · 09-12-2014, 01:11 AM

Originally Posted by Fire Haired

Did you read Laz? Europeans fitting as descending from three ancestral populations was their big discovery. Maybe they don't trace every last drop of their blood to those populations, but we shouldn't see scored at 1% in east Eurasian or Sub Saharan.

That would be the case if the components in Polako's K7 were identical to the three ancestral components used in Lazardis. But they aren't! Polako himself said that for example ANE in K7 is not based on the MA-1 genome as in Lazardis. These calculators look at the truth from different angles and with different resolutions.

**Grace O'Malley** · 09-12-2014, 03:35 PM

Apparently this has been fixed on Gedmatch. It wasn't giving correct results before.

Mine
Population
ANE 16.92%
ASE 1.02%
WHG-UHG 63.89%
East_Eurasian 1.17%
West_African -
East_African 0.20%
ENF 16.82%

Mum
Population
ANE 17.17%
ASE 1.75%
WHG-UHG 62.95%
East_Eurasian 0.61%
West_African -
East_African 0.45%
ENF 17.07%

Brother
Population
ANE 16.82%
ASE 1.65%
WHG-UHG 64.03%
East_Eurasian 0.75%
West_African 0.49%
East_African 0.16%
ENF 16.10%

Daughter
Population
ANE 15.44%
ASE 1.80%
WHG-UHG 64.26%
East_Eurasian 0.75%
West_African -
East_African 0.53%
ENF 17.23%

**Mortimer** · 09-12-2014, 04:49 PM

Population
ANE 15.60%
ASE 6.22%
WHG-UHG 35.38%
East_Eurasian 3.15%
West_African 0.14%
East_African 1.34%
ENF 38.17%

**Geni** · 09-12-2014, 05:22 PM

Population
ANE 10.70%
ASE 1.51%
WHG-UHG 42.44%
East_Eurasian 0.44%
West_African 0.15%
East_African -
ENF 44.77%

**Jusarius** · 09-12-2014, 07:19 PM

Zero ENF for me now!

ANE 20.78%
ASE 2.69%
WHG-UHG 67.88%
East_Eurasian 8.02%
West_African -
East_African 0.59%
ENF -

**Black Wolf** · 09-12-2014, 09:57 PM

The GEDmatch version of this calculator seems to be much more accurate now. Here are my own GEDmatch results.

Population
ANE 15.61%
ASE 3.18%
WHG-UHG 57.33%
East_Eurasian 1.50%
West_African 0.62%
East_African 0.15%
ENF 21.61%

**Black Wolf** · 09-12-2014, 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by Jusarius

That would be the case if the components in Polako's K7 were identical to the three ancestral components used in Lazardis. But they aren't! Polako himself said that for example ANE in K7 is not based on the MA-1 genome as in Lazardis. These calculators look at the truth from different angles and with different resolutions.

What do you think about the origins of the WHG-UHG component? It reaches it's highest frequencies among the Mesolithic samples such as La Brana but Polako said that it was probably present among the first Neolithic farmers of the Fertile Crescent as well as a minor component to ENF. What do you think about this I am curious?

**~~Alessio~~** · 09-12-2014, 10:12 PM

Population
ANE 12.28% Ancestral Northern European
ASE 0.74% Ancestral South Eurasian
WHG-UHG 48.43% Western European/Unknown Hunter-Gatherer
East_Eurasian 0.82%
West_African 0.07%
East_African 0.27%
ENF 37.39% Early Neolithic Farmer