Kurdish Y-DNA

**MarkyMark** · 07-13-2014, 05:50 AM

Originally Posted by Demhat

Most diaspora ASSyrians are simply opportunist liars they lay claim on every part of the Near East which they feel they might get something out from: We didn't go to Niniveh plains until the ASSyrian refugees started fleeing into Kurdistan. Most of the ASSyrians now residing in Kurdistan originally came from Baghdad this is a fact. Than when ISIS came they asked for help from Peshmerga this is why we went to Tel Afar. If we didn't ISIS would have massacred them and gave them a good lesson. But instead beeing thankfull diaspora ASSyrians are spreading all that crap on the net. ASSyrians are invaders from South Levant They came as Akkadians into Hurrian and Summerian lands. Hurrians are believed to have been some Northeast Caucasian with Indo_Iranic elite. All modern West Iranic groups have significant Hurrian admixture. Modern Northeast Caucasians like Lezgins who are believed to be related to Hurrians and Urartains are genetically very close to Iranic speakers. ASSyrians on the other hand cluster with Levantines.

Internet is way different than real life, dude. No one trash talks Kurds tbh. Except on internet. But I only trash when I see something I think is false.

Originally Posted by Demhat

Saddam was a baathist nationalist and racist. He hated everyone differen't than his own group and ASSyrians assisted him in his campaign against Kurds, Chaldeans and Shiites and now they claim to be victims.

All the Iraqi baathists were pretty brutal. A few Assyrians were baathist politicians but other than that they did not do anything.

**StonyArabia** · 07-17-2014, 06:06 AM

Originally Posted by Demhat

Exactly the only Shafi Muslims in that area are Kurds. The reason why Egypt today is Shafi'i(the East) and Hanefi(the West) mixed, is because of Saladin (shafi'i) and the Mamluks(Hanefi]

Yes this is true. It's funny how Saladin replaced the Shia Ismaili Egypt with Sunnism and a policy which continued under the Mamlukes. Yeah the Kurds are majority Shafi Muslims, well Iraqi Arabs are Hanafi, Malaki(nomadic Sunni Bedouins), and of course 12er Shia. That said the adoption of 12er Shiaism was very recent by the nomadic tribes who fulled it up during the 15th century. Although Iraq was always the center of Hanafi Sunnism, for a long time, and before transitioning to Shiaism in the 19th century. The Safavids failed in their attempt, but the Lebaneso-Persian clergy is the on that conducted missions, which saw large conversions of these people, those who decided to isolate themselves are Malaki to this day. They tried to do missions in Western Iraq but it failed quite miserably. Though even Iran could not have been transitioned to Shiaism without the Arab clergy from the Shia centers of Southern Lebanon and Eastern Arabia. A lot of Iranian clergy trace their origins to these Lebanese btw.

**~~Gryphon~~** · 09-23-2014, 02:34 AM

Assyrians should hate the Kurds, after all, it was the Medes who wiped them out from history. Kurds should hold no animosity against Modern Assyrians though, to be honest, from my experience I have never met an Assyrian that wasent gentle or kind, probably the most honest of all semites, along with the Ashkenazi. The real enemy of the Kurds will always be the barbarian tork.