Scytho-Turkic Z93 branch Z2125 vs. Indo-Aryan migration theory

[Pennywise]

Iranian people's heritage and history keep getting plagurized and stolen by pan-turanists much like afrocentrics steal Egypt from the real Egyptians. Have you ever seen an Ossetian, Pashtun, Pamiri, Yaghnobi, and other eastern iranian people? Turkic people have NOTHING do to with the ancient iranian people in central, south and west asia, and anyone who believe that the Saka, Sarmatian, Scythian and other nomadic Aryans(Indo-Iranians) were somehow Turkic turnaid really needs a smack on the head really hard.
Ossetians:
In a study conducted in 2014 by VV Ilyinskyon on bone fragments from 12 Alanic burials on the Don River, 6 samples turned out belonging to yDNA Haplogroup G2 and 6 samples belonging to mtDNA I. This is a strong argument for direct Alan ancestry of Ossetians and against the hypothesis that Ossetians are alanized Caucasic Speakers, since the major Haplogroup among Ossetians is G2*
https://www.academia.edu/7061155/%D0...D0%A1._312-315

Pan-Turanism, like any other ethnocentric groups, is a myth based on lies and hate. Iranian peoples had nothing to do with Turkic peoples, and really, its the Iranians were the ones who had greatly influenced Turkic peoples in their culture and etc rather than vice versa. The Seljuk Turks were heavily persianied in their literature, culture, architecture and etc.

before you open your mouth; first, learn the meaning of pan-turkism, turanism.

[Duke]

Acording to turks, this are gokturk to the core


Recostruction of scythian vase etching

[Proto-Shaman]

Acording to turks, this are gokturk to the core


Recostruction of scythian vase etching

Genetic has shown scythians are eastern europeans, i.e. Slavs

We Croats were called sarmatian in the begining by the Romans, its just old name for Slavs

scythian mummy

lol, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scythians#Genetics

[Duke]

lol, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scythians#Genetics

the remains tested were from siberia, not scythia proper, i.e ukarine
Study have shown male ancestors were East europeans, while some of their fathers took siberian wives.

Migration, west towards east

[Pennywise]

lol, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scythians#Genetics

the imbecile has no anthropolocigal knowledge and showing us some symbolic sculptures and drawings. do not argue with that mal.

[Kamal900]

yet another, "Golden Woman" Scythian princess found in Kazahstan Terekti
description on the comb shows a war between Scythians and Iranians. so that's a big evidence, Scythians can't be fucking iranians
http://onturk.org/2014/08/20/altin-g...din/#more-4639

-__- So let me get this straight, because the scythian woman was found in Kazakhstan makes her turkic Turanid? I dont deny that there are some Turanid scythians in western mongolia and some parts in north-central asia, but most Scythians were racially CAUCASIAN, and ethnically speaking they are Iranian people closely related to other eastern iranian peoples like Pashtuns, Kawarizimy, Pamiris, Yaghnob, Bactrians and etc. Turkic peoples were still in the Altay mountains in mongolia when the Iranian peoples were living across Asia. Turkish people are genetically MUCH closer to other west asians rather than to Kazakhs, Bashkirians, Uzbeks and other Turkic peoples.

[Danishmend]

Turkic people have NOTHING do to with the ancient iranian people in central, south and west asia, and anyone who believe that the Saka, Sarmatian, Scythian and other nomadic Aryans(Indo-Iranians) were somehow Turkic turnaid really needs a smack on the head really hard.

Sakas (Massagetae) were called Turanian (an Iranic term) by Iranians, not by Turanists you idiot. Scythians were Indo-European speaking (still disputed though), but later absorbed into the culture and identity of incoming Turkic tribes. What we are saying is Central Asian Turks are genetically & culturally more related to Saka/Scythian/Massagetae than modern Iranians or Slavs are.

Pan-Turanism, like any other ethnocentric groups, is a myth based on lies and hate. Iranian peoples had nothing to do with Turkic peoples, and really, its the Iranians were the ones who had greatly influenced Turkic peoples in their culture and etc rather than vice versa. The Seljuk Turks were heavily persianied in their literature, culture, architecture and etc.

Do you even know what we are talking about? What the fuck does Pan-Turanism have to do with this? Why do you repeat that word like a fucking parrot?

[Duke]

the imbecile has no anthropolocigal knowledge and showing us some symbolic sculptures and drawings. do not argue with that mal.

you are so retarded, you didnt even read

Ancient Y-DNA data was finally provided by Keyser et al in 2009. They studied the haplotypes and haplogroups of 26 ancient human specimens from the Krasnoyarsk area in Siberia were dated from between the middle of the 2nd millennium BC and the 4th century AD (Scythian and Sarmatian timeframe). Nearly all subjects belong to haplogroup R-M17. The authors suggest that their data shows that between Bronze and Iron Ages the constellation of populations known variously as Scythians, Andronovians, etc. were blue- (or green-) eyed, fair-skinned and light-haired people who might have played a role in the early development of the Tarim Basin civilization. Moreover, this study found that they were genetically more closely related to modern populations of eastern Europe than those of central and southern Asia.[38] The ubiquity and utter dominance of R1a Y-DNA lineage contrasts markedly with the diversity seen in the mtDNA profiles.

In other words, eastern euros, and some of them had asian like mother line

[Danishmend]

Acording to turks, this are gokturk to the core


Recostruction of scythian vase etching

They are for sure not Slav either.

[Proto-Shaman]

the remains tested were from siberia, not scythia proper, i.e ukarine
Study have shown male ancestors were East europeans, while some of their fathers took siberian wives.

Migration, west towards east

You mean that Rostov Scythian remains which cluster close to Iranian Shugnans and Turkic Tatars and various other Turkic and Ugric tribes´?