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Thread: The non-Aryan origin of "Iranians"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danishmend View Post
    Have you tried to check "arabs" page? That's well known wiki based humor/troll website i think some ofs content is pretty funny.
    Yes, i did. I also checked Armenian, Kurds, Jews and etc, and yes, its funny. Anyways, pan-Turanism, like Afrocentrism or any other ethnocentric ideologies, is based on mythology and racism. Like MANY people have said, the Scythians, Parthians, and other nomadic Iranic peoples are NOT Turkic, and it was them who forged Turkic culture and heritage rather than the other way around. You want to be a mongol? go right ahead, but don't try to force other Turkic peoples in joining the Turan army of yours against Iran and etc. Most central Asian Turkic peoples dont give two craps about that nor do they wish to associate themselves to the middle east.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilgamesh900 View Post
    Yes, i did. I also checked Armenian, Kurds, Jews and etc, and yes, its funny. Anyways, pan-Turanism, like Afrocentrism or any other ethnocentric ideologies, is based on mythology and racism. Like MANY people have said, the Scythians, Parthians, and other nomadic Iranic peoples are NOT Turkic, and it was them who forged Turkic culture and heritage rather than the other way around. You want to be a mongol? go right ahead, but don't try to force other Turkic peoples in joining the Turan army of yours against Iran and etc. Most central Asian Turkic peoples dont give two craps about that nor do they wish to associate themselves to the middle east.
    Now I'm even more convinced that you suffer from schizophrenia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justme View Post
    To me turks and Armenians look so alike...
    Not surprising since Armenians make up a substantial ancestry of Anatolian turks.

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    Another troll thread! What else is new?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilgamesh900 View Post
    Lol, your the one to talk. Turks are nothing but Turkified native Anatolians with minor Turkic admixture, and genetically, Turks cluster very close to the people they hate than their so called Turkic bretheren in central and north asia.
    Azerbajanis are Turkified Iranians

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    Aryan schmaryan. Lets all unite under Islam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armenian Bishop View Post
    Another troll thread! What else is new?
    BBC is troll ? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by gültekin View Post
    BBC is troll ? lol
    That's True, BBC articles have credibility, and this one too. I haven't examined it carefully. The hostile remarks, insults and flaming passion gave me the impression that it's a troll thread, but not because of the opening post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armenian Bishop View Post
    That's True, BBC articles have credibility, and this one too. I haven't examined it carefully. Because of the hostile remarks, insults and flaming passion, I judged it to be a troll thread, but not because of the opening post.
    some people can handle such things and have started this campaign, created sockpuppets to provoke etc., sadly

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    Quote Originally Posted by lameduck View Post
    Iranian definitely have lot higher ANE than their Arab neighbors.
    you guys falling anytime in this trap, Arabs are an ethnicity, but "Iranian" is not. in Iran living many different ethnic groups. for a more reliably determine the Persians should counted as reference, not the whole Iran
    they have different types of Y-DNA
    Quote Originally Posted by gültekin View Post
    FTDNA Y-DNA results about the ethnic groups of Iran:
    http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/sho...-Project/page3
    https://www.familytreedna.com/public...ction=yresults
    Assyrian
    F3-P96
    G1*-M342
    G2a-P15
    J1*-M267
    T1-M320


    Azeri
    G*-M201
    R2a-M124
    R2a-M124

    Arab
    G-M201
    G1*-M342
    J1-M267
    R1a1-M17


    Judeo-Persian
    R2a-M124

    Luri
    E1b1b1-M35
    J2a4b-M67


    Parsi/Tati (Transcaucasian Persian)
    E1b1b1c1-M34

    Persian
    G-M201
    G1a-P20
    J2-M172 (x2)
    J2a4a-M47
    J2a4b-M67
    J2a4d-M319
    Q*-M242


    Qajar
    J1*-M267

    Seyyed
    J1c3d-L147

    Tajik
    R2*-M479

    Talysh
    G2a3b1-P303

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