Eurogenes Biogeographic Ancestry Project

[Aino]

Nothing new or surprising for me. I am predominantly Baltic Finnish.

Basque 0%
Mediterranean 1%
Southeast European 0%
Baltic Finnish 93%
North Euro 6%

[Don Brick]

I´m such a mutt in comparison to Aino and most other Finns.

Here´s me:

Baltic Finnish 49 %
North Euro 38 %
Basque 6 %
Mediterranean 4 %
Southeast Euro 3 %

[Pallantides]

Polako made this comment on another froum:

Finns are the most North European group in the series, along with Lithuanians. They often score 100% in the Baltic Finnish cluster.

BTW, the North European cluster need not come from North Europe, but might be ancestral to North Europeans.

Craniometric study: Neolithic migrants did not penetrate Northern and Eastern Europe

[Don Brick]

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[Agrippa]

Polako made this comment on another froum:

He should rather speak of a Northern Mesolithic or North Eastern European component, since Northern European implies relations to the modern Northern Europeans, but these are both less Mesolithic and less Northern Eurasian than Finns, so this is a misnomer, which makes no sense at all.

The only sense it makes is to make this component look "more Northern European than actual Northern Europeans" (and with "actual Northern Europeans" I mean Northern Europeans since thousands of years already), which is an oxymoron.

[Pallantides]

According to the spreadsheet Lithuanians and Belarusians have the highest 'North Euro' score, while Finns have the highest 'Baltic Finnish' score.

[Agrippa]

According to the spreadsheet Lithuanians and Belarusians have the highest 'North Euro' score, while Finns have the highest 'Baltic Finnish' score.

Well, this doesn't wonder neither, since in Finns you have to substract a stronger Northern Eurasian component and Lit-Bela have less Neolithic influences. This was obvious from the archaeological record already, but in all those cases I wonder where the samples were taken from and whether future results will present us new differentiations, which I would always expect in Lithuania simply from West to East, in Belarussia more complex, but f.e. also along the rivers vs. "the less accessible and favourable woodlands".

Additionally, I wouldn't wonder about this "Northern component" being split up in the future, with more data available, because the Neolithic expansion happened to a large part from inside of the older spectrum, yet there was a differentiation present if comparing f.e. the Eastbaltic area with that of Southern Russia and the Ukraine.

I guess there might be something to find here too, further distinguishing the "real North Eastern Mesolithic" from those elements which were related, but expanded from the South in the Neolithic and Metal Age eras.

If this is recognisable in the archaeological record, why not in the genes? So far most of the time, if the archaeological record and typological analysis showed something clearly, the better the genetic tests were, the more they showed of this...

[Osweo]

Osweo:

Basque 11%
Mediterranean 1%
Southeast European 1%
Baltic Finnish 0%
North Euro 86%

^^ Mr Nazi poster boy!

Thanks, Untermensch!

What did I say the other day, eh? Ah;

By the way, though, my home county has far better Nordic sculpted reliefs from the Volsungasaga than anywhere in Scandinavia. Amounderness, Lund and Thingwall. Don't get more Nordic than that!

....Vindicated.

[Pallantides]

NO1

Basque 6%
Mediterranean 4%
Southeast European 2%
Baltic Finnish 14%
North Euro 75%


NO2(Me)

Basque 0%
Mediterranean 1%
Southeast European 0%
Baltic Finnish 19%
North Euro 80%


NO3

Basque 0%
Mediterranean 1%
Southeast European 1%
Baltic Finnish 12%
North Euro 86%


NO5

Basque 4%
Mediterranean 3%
Southeast European 5%
Baltic Finnish 18%
North Euro 71%


NO6

Basque 0%
Mediterranean 9%
Southeast European 0%
Baltic Finnish 11%
North Euro 80%


NO7

Basque 10%
Mediterranean 0%
Southeast European 2%
Baltic Finnish 14%
North Euro 75%

The Swedes

SE1

Basque 1%
Mediterranean 9%
Southeast European 1%
Baltic Finnish 12%
North Euro 77%


SE2

Basque 4%
Mediterranean 5%
Southeast European 3%
Baltic Finnish 17%
North Euro 71%


SE4

Basque 1%
Mediterranean 4%
Southeast European 0%
Baltic Finnish 16%
North Euro 79%


SE5

Basque 0%
Mediterranean 6%
Southeast European 0%
Baltic Finnish 19%
North Euro 75%


SE6

Basque 2%
Mediterranean 10%
Southeast European 0%
Baltic Finnish 9%
North Euro 79%


SE7

Basque 7%
Mediterranean 0%
Southeast European 6%
Baltic Finnish 21%
North Euro 65%


SE8

Basque 7%
Mediterranean 0%
Southeast European 1%
Baltic Finnish 19%
North Euro 73%


*SE6 who have the lowest 'Baltic Finnish' score is Scanian.

[Äike]

According to the spreadsheet Lithuanians and Belarusians have the highest 'North Euro' score, while Finns have the highest 'Baltic Finnish' score.

Aren't Baltic-Finnish people the most Northern-European group of Europeans? As I see it, it's just a subgroup of Northern-Europeans in this research.

I'll post the results of 2 Estonians.

EE1

Basque 0%
Mediterranean 0%
Southeast European 0%
Baltic Finnish 26%
North Euro 74%

EE2 (Me)

Basque 2%
Mediterranean 2%
Southeast European 0%
Baltic Finnish 28%
North Euro 68%

I am wondering about the Basque and Mediterranean components, maybe it is caused by the distant Estonian-Swede ancestry, there was even a discussion on Biodiversity that Swedes have more "Southern-European" genes. Most Swedes on Europe_k=5 have "high"(when compared to the 2 Estonians) Basque or Mediterranean scores.

EDIT: Here's also "EESE1", I think that person is half-Estonian and half-Swedish:

EESE1

Basque 3%
Mediterranean 3%
Southeast European 0%
Baltic Finnish 29%
North Euro 66%