Dodecad Ancestry Project

[Franz]

http://dodecad.blogspot.com/2011/02/...r-dodecad.html

He included more Dodecad samples 410 of 449 compared to the last one that had 261 Dodecad samples. This analysis showed IDs including the ethnically mixed but not Dodecad samples grouped by populations with no IDs like the last run.

This part looks interesting.

I plan to explore fine-scale structure of Dodecad Project members further, especially of those who belong to large, undifferentiated clusters that may harbor latent informative structure.

Clusters Galore, K=65, 36 reference populations (692 individuals) + 24 Dodecad populations (261 individuals)
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?...CO355tgB#gid=0

I'm DOD197, on this one I appear to be in cluster 7.


Post by Fanty from the Dodecad blog


There are also two White Uthan samples in the cluster.

That spreadsheet was from January and the samples went up to DOD307. The Irish looks out of place if comparing to the latest run, but I haven't looked at the IDs to verify.

[Pallantides]

On that one I'm in cluster 25

[Pallantides]

The single largest cluster is #3 which is mostly "British Isles"
Cluster #26 encompasses most Greek/South Italian/Sicilian individuals; not how this is not represented in the reference populations, which lack such individuals
Cluster #23, also absent in the reference populations encompasses mainly Finns and some Russians
Cluster #25 is also quite large, consisting of 42 Project members and only 2 reference White Utahns. This consists largely of North/Central Europeans from continental Europe.
Cluster #4 includes mainly Iberians
Cluster #11 mainly Ashkenazi Jews
Cluster #15 mainly Turks
Cluster #16 mainly people from the Balkans
Cluster #27 mainly North-Central Italians not in #26 (the Greco-Italian cluster)

[Loki]

http://dodecad.blogspot.com/2011/02/...r-dodecad.html

I fall 69% into cluster 3, which Dienekes says is "British Isles", and 29% into cluster 24, that I see is "French" in the bottom legend.

[Grumpy Cat]

How did you figure out which one you were? I sent an e-mail with my raw data but never got a reply.

[Loki]

How did you figure out which one you were? I sent an e-mail with my raw data but never got a reply.

He will email you back and tell you your ID ... maybe you should send him a reminder?

[Franz]

If one looks at the Fst distances of ancestral components of North European, South European and West Asian, the differences are about the same to each other. If going by that, calling one component such as North European as Paleolithic and another Neolithic makes absolutely no sense. There are some absurd things people say about the components.

By the way, Karl is in the cluster with the Lithuanians. Going by that, he looks “Baltic”. It's not surprising.

[drgs]

I'm 100% Cluster 22 (DOD365)

[Pallantides]

http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2011/03...lto-slavs.html


I have no idea wich of the Scandinavians I am.

[Äike]

By the way, Karl is in the cluster with the Lithuanians. Going by that, he looks “Baltic”. It's not surprising.

You do not know how I look like and there's nothing Baltic about southern-Finnics. Look at the Y-DNA of the Lithuanians, they're so heavily Finnic(opposite of Baltic), that only the Finns have more N1c1.

It is possible to draw parallels with the Balkan area. Most of them are Slavic, but genetically, they're not that Slavic at all. The same applies to Lithuanians, the native Finnic blood still runs in their veins.

I am slowly getting fed up with people making assumptions without looking at 5000 years of history. What's next? Germans are actually Italian, because of the Germanic presence to Northern-Italy?

Practically saying, if the sample population would be Estonian, then the Lithuanians would score high Estonian scores and everyone would be saying that they're "Finnic", not "Baltic". The naivety of some people is remarkable. Lithuanians are one of the most "Finnic" people in Europe, after the Finns.