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Celtic is the new Germanic.









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Celto_Germanic 30.79%
Barely made it, i think the bouncer of this club begins to look at you funny under 30%
Credits to Graham :
Celto_Germanic
41.51% -- Anglo Saxon Ave, East England
41.33% -- Unetice Culture
40.26% -- Iron Age Briton, East England
37.54% -- Denmark 2196-2023 BC
36.81% -- Sintashta Culture
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I think now that the NE French DNA which is in Britain but not Wales came from one or more Celtic migrations - Urnfield or Halstatt/La Tène. Whoever they were it looks like the Welsh successfully resisted them, just as they would later resist the Anglo-Saxons. Only the Romans conquered the Welsh before Norman/Angevin England.
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The use of chariots in ancient Britain was always intriguing. Apparently Britain was one of the last holdouts in Eurasia to continue the use of chariots all the way into the late Iron Age and Classical era. Most other places had totally replaced battle chariots with more practical regular cavalry. It supports the idea that there were historical anachronisms that may have persisted in Britian for longer than the rest of antiquity. From what I know, there were places (in the west and north most likely) where they didn't even make (significant) use of iron until after the Roman era. Basically tribes stuck in the Bronze Age. Though I'm sure there were some other areas of Europe that were equally "stuck in time", in places like Fennoscandia etc.
The pastoralist/agriculturalist distinction was definitely there too. The southeast was seeing constant waves of conquest and settlement, while areas past the midlands were relatively untouched for a long time. People think it started with the Anglo-Saxons, but that's just not true. Before them there were Gauls, Belgae, and many others before them arriving in significant numbers. From what I read, southeast Britain likely had a solid Belgic upper-stratum for a time. Groups like the Catuvellauni were most likely Belgic, among others.
Most likely, this is the reason the hillforts increase once you get into the Midlands and beyond. They built those because they were constantly fighting off continental invaders that had gotten a foothold in the southeast.
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