Greek resistance against the Ottoman invasion.

[Albobalboa]

Or the reverse, your ancestors participated in an act of humiliation which painted you as a traitor to the only actual identity which existed at the time, and you need to make up for it, so you become a time travelling secular romantic nationalist and avoid the fact that Skenderbeg defended Christianity, not Albanianism..

- shit someone with a religious identity says. The fact is our origins as a people are not christian, nor are yours. So that would make you traitors to your real identity. We are what we've always been as far as our identity goes.

[Albobalboa]

Lol you're just illiterate boyo. There's was never an ethnic state identity in the era you're discussing about. Till modern era it was about class , religion and culture (which contained ethnicity) and of course Empires.

Humans are naturally identifying themselves by spirit and not ethnicity. A smart Greek will get along with a smart Albnanian , more than he ll do with a retarded Greek. An Orthodox will feel closer to his fellow Orthodox from another ethnicity than his own atheist fellow.

Its only Albanians who don't get this , since they have degenerated into slaves of great powers and they feel depended on them. Its slavery that binds the Albanians together.

Albanian ethnicity is basically a big fat zero. No way of life underlines this idenity. A stolen Romios flag, some hunderd of thousand loanwords and a bunch of hilibilies that are struggling to survive by shiftng religions. Its all about feeling "pride" and asslicking USA , your artificial state.

Humans as biological beings identify with family. Family for a larger people is some form of tribal relation. The rest is just you trying to cope and make it in your head that your mixed identity is "the right one".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_Albanians

"Analysis of autosomal DNA, which analyses all genetic components has revealed that few rigid genetic discontinuities exist in European populations, apart from certain outliers such as Saami, Sardinians, Basques, Finns and Kosovar Albanians. They found that Albanians, on the one hand, have a high amount of identity by descent sharing, suggesting that both Albanians from Albania and Kosovo derived from a relatively small population that expanded recently and rapidly in the last 1,500 years. On the other hand, they are not wholly isolated or endogamous, as they share a significant amount of descent with nearby Macedonian, Greek and Italian populations. The recent growth is particularly evident in Kosovar Albanians, which show particularly high levels of homogeneity, in contrast to the higher diversity otherwise found in other Balkan populations"

Keep trying to cope, Kara-Kacan. You're so confused you're even using a turkish ethnonym and identifying as an orthodox christian. With the term Roman lol. WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU. As for asslicking, there's been threads on that already, your state has done enough asslicking to circle the solar system ten times. Finally Albania makes use of geopolitics, started late compared to our neighbors.

[DarknessWin]

Funny how it's the exact opposite. All of you seem to have some Arvanite or Vlach ancestry, I'm dead serious, every single Greek member on this forum seems to be mixed to no end. That's not a problem to me but seems like you're projecting your identity crisis. Which one in your family is vlach?

That's why most albanians get greek in their dna tests ???
Your country and ethnicity is fake and created last 90+ years

Vlachs are Greeks, even Vlachs in romania considered Greeks.
You tryin to change nationalities

[Casandrinos]

Or the reverse, your ancestors participated in an act of humiliation which painted you as a traitor to the only actual identity which existed at the time, and you need to make up for it, so you become a time travelling secular romantic nationalist and avoid the fact that Skenderbeg defended Christianity, not Albanianism..

Skenderbeg was a Romios , he is ancestor of the Greeks and protector of the Roman Empire.that lives on modern.Orthodox.Greeks.

Even if ethnicity and land bind him to Albanians , I don't think he would ever side with those retards. Just like.Arvanites.

[Laberia]

Ok let's all be friends now

And don't forget, Burra with double rr, because we also use the bur or bura, for those who are not a real man.

[Albobalboa]

Greek christian logic: "Why did you Albos leave the original religion christian hurr, you are traitors". Meanwhile Ancient Greek religion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek_religion

Weird that these arvanitovlachs don't see the irony in it. Most Albanians traded religion for tax and societal purposes, sorry for not being as dependant on a middle eastern religion for our core identity as you are.

[Abeja]

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What's so strange exactly? Albanians were a successful elite in the Ottoman empire and even though sometimes Albanian and Ottoman interest conveged, majority of the time Albanians still did their own interest. Our vilayet were semiautonomous and perpetually in rebellion.

Were it not for the foreign powers, the Albanian Mehmet Ali would have destroyed the Ottoman empire. So much for Albanians caring about the empire.

[Scholarios]

Skenderbeg was a Romios , he is ancestor of the Greeks and protector of the Roman Empire.that lives on modern.Orthodox.Greeks.

Even if ethnicity and land bind him to Albanians , I don't think he would ever side with those retards. Just like.Arvanites.

[Albobalboa]

That's why most albanians get greek in their dna tests ???
Your country and ethnicity is fake and created last 90+ years

Vlachs are Greeks, even Vlachs in romania considered Greeks.
You tryin to change nationalities

Just quoting you for fun, that was amusing.

[DarknessWin]

No, they were Tosk Albanian Christians, and their dialect, Arvanite, is a sub-dialect of the Tosk Albanian language. Strangely, Vlachs in Albania do have more rights to exercise their language and culture than in most countries in Southern Europe, so I think it completely negates the fact that they are of Vlach origins simply because they are of Orthrodox domination while the Albanian Christians are Catholics.

no they were not tosk, they spoken both tosk dialect and greek language and they were mostly vlachs.
Vlachs are latinophone greeks from the roman army