Eurogenes Biogeographic Ancestry Project

**Rochefaton** · 05-18-2011, 03:07 PM

My new results, US5:

K=4

Southern + Western European 24.6%
North Sea 64.5%
Southern Baltic 3.6%
Northeast European 7.3%

K=5

North Atlantic 16.4%
Southern Baltic 2.4%
Southern+Western European 18.7%
Northeast European 1.7%
North Sea 60.8%

**Rochefaton** · 05-18-2011, 10:44 PM

These maps were posted by Day Tripper at ABF. They show the distribution of the clusters amongst select European nationalities. The first four are at K=4 and the last five are at K=5.

**Rochefaton** · 05-18-2011, 10:47 PM

Here are the average scores of project members by nationality. Thanks goes to Day Tripper @ ABF for these too.

K=4 AVERAGES

BY
Southern + Western European: 12.1%
North Sea: 2.3%
Southern Baltic: 74.5%
Northeast European: 11.1%

CA
Southern + Western European: 38.5%
North Sea: 50.3%
Southern Baltic: 9.0%
Northeast European: 2.1%

DE
Southern + Western European: 32.7%
North Sea: 38.8%
Southern Baltic: 23.7%
Northeast European: 4.8%

DK
Southern + Western European: 22.9%
North Sea: 63.0%
Southern Baltic: 7.9%
Northeast European: 6.1%

EE
Southern + Western European: 1.5%
North Sea: 21.6%
Southern Baltic: 55.9%
Northeast European: 21.0%

ES
Southern + Western European: 87.4%
North Sea: 5.6%
Southern Baltic: 3.6%
Northeast European: 3.4%

FI
Southern + Western European: 2.3%
North Sea: 38.5%
Southern Baltic: 9.7%
Northeast European: 49.4%

FR
Southern + Western European: 57.7%
North Sea: 30.0%
Southern Baltic: 7.5%
Northeast European: 4.8%

HU
Southern + Western European: 40.3%
North Sea: 14.6%
Southern Baltic: 33.6%
Northeast European: 11.5%

IE
Southern + Western European: 30.1%
North Sea: 61.1%
Southern Baltic: 6.5%
Northeast European: 2.3%

LT
Southern + Western European: 1.6%
North Sea: 0.8%
Southern Baltic: 95.3%
Northeast European: 2.4%

NL
Southern + Western European: 22.6%
North Sea: 67.1%
Southern Baltic: 4.8%
Northeast European: 5.5%

NO
Southern + Western European: 5.0%
North Sea: 77.5%
Southern Baltic: 7.6%
Northeast European: 10.0%

North_Russian
Southern + Western European: 3.7%
North Sea: 2.9%
Southern Baltic: 31.1%
Northeast European: 62.3%

PL
Southern + Western European: 20.6%
North Sea: 12.7%
Southern Baltic: 54.9%
Northeast European: 11.8%

RU
Southern + Western European: 11.9%
North Sea: 4.3%
Southern Baltic: 51.3%
Northeast European: 32.5%

SE
Southern + Western European: 7.9%
North Sea: 66.2%
Southern Baltic: 10.9%
Northeast European: 15.1%

UA
Southern + Western European: 18.2%
North Sea: 6.7%
Southern Baltic: 54.7%
Northeast European: 20.4%

UK
Southern + Western European: 30.0%
North Sea: 61.5%
Southern Baltic: 5.3%
Northeast European: 3.2%

US
Southern + Western European: 33.7%
North Sea: 52.2%
Southern Baltic: 9.5%
Northeast European: 4.5%

K=5 AVERAGES

BY
North Atlantic: 8.5%
Southern Baltic: 66.3%
Southern + Western European: 9.3%
Northeast European: 12.8%
North Sea: 3.0%

CA
North Atlantic: 49.1%
Southern Baltic: 6.0%
Southern + Western European: 19.7%
Northeast European: 1.9%
North Sea: 23.3%

DE
North Atlantic: 37.3%
Southern Baltic: 18.7%
Southern + Western European: 17.2%
Northeast European: 4.6%
North Sea: 22.1%

DK
North Atlantic: 35.1%
Southern Baltic: 5.6%
Southern + Western European: 12.1%
Northeast European: 3.9%
North Sea: 43.3%

EE
North Atlantic: 1.2%
Southern Baltic: 51.1%
Southern + Western European: 2.4%
Northeast European: 19.5%
North Sea: 25.9%

ES
North Atlantic: 20.4%
Southern Baltic: 1.5%
Southern + Western European: 72.4%
Northeast European: 0.9%
North Sea: 4.9%

FI
North Atlantic: 5.5%
Southern Baltic: 3.6%
Southern + Western European: 1.3%
Northeast European: 43.1%
North Sea: 46.5%

FR
North Atlantic: 31.7%
Southern Baltic: 5.1%
Southern + Western European: 42.7%
Northeast European: 3.0%
North Sea: 17.5%

HU
North Atlantic: 10.1%
Southern Baltic: 29.3%
Southern + Western European: 34.0%
Northeast European: 9.0%
North Sea: 17.7%

IE
North Atlantic: 53.8%
Southern Baltic: 3.1%
Southern + Western European: 11.3%
Northeast European: 2.0%
North Sea: 29.9%

LT
North Atlantic: 0%
Southern Baltic: 93.2%
Southern + Western European: 1.9%
Northeast European: 2.8%
North Sea: 2.1%

NL
North Atlantic: 50.8%
Southern Baltic: 0.2%
Southern + Western European: 4.7%
Northeast European: 5.0%
North Sea: 39.2%

NO
North Atlantic: 40.1%
Southern Baltic: 3.6%
Southern + Western European: 0%
Northeast European: 9.5%
North Sea: 46.8%

North_Russian
North Atlantic: 8.9%
Southern Baltic: 14.3%
Southern + Western European: 3.0%
Northeast European: 66.1%
North Sea: 7.7%

PL
North Atlantic: 18.1%
Southern Baltic: 47.8%
Southern + Western European: 12.7%
Northeast European: 12.2%
North Sea: 9.2%

RU
North Atlantic: 13.2%
Southern Baltic: 37.8%
Southern + Western European: 7.4%
Northeast European: 35.6%
North Sea: 5.9%

SE
North Atlantic: 22.4%
Southern Baltic: 7.4%
Southern + Western European: 4.0%
Northeast European: 11.6%
North Sea: 54.7%

UA
North Atlantic: 16.2%
Southern Baltic: 46.5%
Southern + Western European: 10.3%
Northeast European: 20.5%
North Sea: 6.5%

UK
North Atlantic: 43.3%
Southern Baltic: 2.8%
Southern + Western European: 15.1%
Northeast European: 1.6%
North Sea: 37.3%

US
North Atlantic: 37.3%
Southern Baltic: 6.7%
Southern + Western European: 20.0%
Northeast European: 2.9%
North Sea: 33.2%

My North Sea score is higher than the average of any nation at K=5 and only the Norwegians and Dutch average a higher North Sea score than me at K=4. My scores are way different than the Irish or British, yet that is who I cluster with at 23andMe. My scors are not exactly close to the US averages either. Strange.

**Efim45** · 05-18-2011, 11:30 PM

My part 3 results (RU19):
K=4
Southern+Western European: 27%
North Sea: 5.5%
Southern Baltic: 35.6%
Northeast European: 31.8%

K=5
North Atlantic: 21.8%
Southern Baltic: 26.2%
Southern+Western European: 18%
Northeast European: 33.7%
North Sea: .4%

**Barreldriver** · 05-19-2011, 06:20 PM

My results (I'm US83):

K = 4
Southern + Western European: 34.8374%
North Sea: 58.2542%
Baltic: 3.5321%
Finnish: 3.3762%

K = 5
Finnish: 4.6853%
Southern + Western European: 28.0649%
East European: 0.001%
Southern Baltic: 17.0369%
Northwest European: 50.2119%

k = 5 without Finns:

North Atlantic: 44.0187%
Southern Baltic: 7.444%
Southern + Western European: 21.1778%
Northeast European: 0.001%
Scandinavian: 27.3585%

**Electronic God-Man** · 05-19-2011, 06:53 PM

Southern and Western Euro - 31.73%
North Sea - 48.23%
Southern Baltic - 15.49%
Northeast Euro - 4.54%

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North Atlantic - 41.96%
Southern Baltic - 12.1%
Southern and Western Euro - 16.56%
Northeast Euro -3.6%
Scandinavian - 25.75%

**Polako** · 05-21-2011, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by AlabamaMan

My North Sea score is higher than the average of any nation at K=5 and only the Norwegians and Dutch average a higher North Sea score than me at K=4. My scores are way different than the Irish or British, yet that is who I cluster with at 23andMe. My scors are not exactly close to the US averages either. Strange.

Aren't you part Fenno-Scandic?

In any case, on one map I cluster with the French at 23andMe, which, quite frankly, I found very offensive. But this was one of the main things that spurred me on to create this project. It's interesting how a negative can become a positive.

**Don Brick** · 05-21-2011, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by Polako

Aren't you part Fenno-Scandic?

In any case, on one map I cluster with the French at 23andMe, which, quite frankly, I found very offensive. But this was one of the main things that spurred me on to create this project. It's interesting how a negative can become a positive.

haha oh yes the 23andme clusters! Had forgotten about that completely. Btw, if you don´t mind explaining, how do you tell who you cluster with the most? I am found in the English, French, German and Norwegian clusters. The box closest to my location appears to be English. Should I go by that? Trivial, and hardly very accurate I´m sure, but I´m curious.

**Polako** · 05-21-2011, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by Don Draper

haha oh yes the 23andme clusters! Had forgotten about that completely. Btw, if you don´t mind explaining, how do you tell who you cluster with the most? I am found in the English, French, German and Norwegian clusters. The box closest to my location appears to be English. Should I go by that? Trivial, and hardly very accurate I´m sure, but I´m curious.

There are actually four clusters on that North European map; Irish, Orcadian, generic North Euro, and Austrian.

Most people fall into the generic North Euro. It's not possible to split that up, since there are no seperate clusters created by the samples in that area, like the Germans, English, French, etc. They all overlap, sometimes completely. Also, the box concept makes no sense, since genetic clusters are rarely, if ever, boxes.