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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvin View Post
    Ethnicities are cultures and societies. Race, on the other hand, is a purely biological concept.
    Then prove it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvin View Post
    No decline in fertility of mixed-race children has between observed compared to monoracial kids.
    That's because it's "politically incorrect" to measure and demonstrate the statistics.

    An inordinate amount of mixed-racial children are "LTGBQ" for example. And they obviously are infertile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Abubu View Post
    The whole race discussion is incredibly stupid. Genetics in and of itself tells us absolutely nothing because data in and of itself tells nothing. Information is processed and interpreted by people, who then categorize it. Saying a race is such and such a genetic proximity in terms of genetic calculations doesn't make sense when the concept of race preceded the study of genetics and was never defined as such. Geneticists coming along and claiming that races don't exist because of some arbitrary interpretation of numbers is stupid because they are bringing in a new concept of race and because it is a completely arbitrary one.
    That's all false.

    Genes are data. And the genes tell everything; genes cannot lie. Genes explicitly show to everybody that race and ethnicity exists.

    The "social constructs" begin when some people want to deny their own race, or, the race of other people. Those motives should be questioned more strongly than "the existence of race". Why are some people so determined to 'erase' their own race?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvin View Post
    But all races have already been mixing with each other during the last 500+ years.
    Not really, most ethnicities and races inter-breed within themselves.

    For example, the Chinese and Japanese have not mixed with Africans or Europeans, during the "last 500+ years". They've been isolated and don't necessarily welcome outsiders or encroachment against their women.

    The truth is, some race's women are "easier" to take than others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unome View Post
    That's all false.

    Genes are data. And the genes tell everything; genes cannot lie. Genes explicitly show to everybody that race and ethnicity exists.

    The "social constructs" begin when some people want to deny their own race, or, the race of other people. Those motives should be questioned more strongly than "the existence of race". Why are some people so determined to 'erase' their own race?
    Genes are data and data is interpreted by people. Without that interpretation those genes tell us nothing. Moreover, the concepts of race existed far before genetics ever came around. All genetics can ever do is say that such and such race shows such and such genetic signatures. It doesn't define races.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fl1994 View Post
    You are an idiot.
    The ones who call the others as sub-human.
    You human reject that looks like a pile of shit, do you never stop with your cancerous threads and topics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvin View Post
    For example this guy is ethnically Polish, but racially Negroid (unlike the rest of Poles):

    He isn't an ethnic Pole. He has a Polish citizenship and that's as far as it goes. This guys roots have no part in the historical development of Polishness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvin View Post
    He was born in Poland, grew up in Polish culture, Polish is his mother tongue, and he identifies as ethnic Pole.



    But the development of Polishness is not only historical, it has been an ongoing process.
    The development isn't, but the being of Polishness is historical. I'd be really pissed if my ancestors suffered so I could live on their land and then have some dude with no historical tie to the same soil call himself my equal as a compatriot. It's absurd. And the very definition of ethnicity includes a belief in a shared historical origin. I guess in the case of Poland this goes back to our days as half-men in Africa? Or perhaps even farther back, to the first mammal? Or even the first amoeba?

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    There s nearly a dozen. We re mostly a mix of two closely related ones, in Europe.

    Thinking nature would politely restrain herself just for humans, when differents races of animals are everywhere, is already a bit pretentious.

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