Indigenous Balkan I2a1 in southern Albania

[Coolguy1]

Is there any explanation for why this haplogroup reaches such high percentages in southern Albania?



I would think that its the leftovers from Kutmichevitsa Slavs



Either that or its somehow native?

[Dick]

I never bothered learning about other y-dna clades other than my own but I2a1 seems very interesting regarding the balkans. I wonder why it's more common with balkan slavs than with other slavs. Could be the same reason as to why E-v13 is more common with albanians. They fucked like rabbits and had 10+ kids per family since the middle ages. What else are you gonna do in the mountans other than fuck and eat.

This branch is found overwhelmingly in Slavic countries. Its maximum frequencies are observed among the Dinaric Slavs (Slovenes, Croats, Bosniaks, Serbs, Montenegrins and Macedonians) as well as in Bulgaria, Romania, Moldavia, western Ukraine and Belarus. It is also common to a lower extent in Albania, Greece, Hungary, Slovakia, Poland, and south-western Russia. I2-L621 (L147.2+) is also known as as I2a-Din (for Dinaric).

Nowadays, I2a1 is five to ten times more common than G2a in Southeast Europe, while during the Neolithic period G2a was approximately four times more common. What can explain this complete reversal? At one point in history, I2a1 lineages seem to have benefited from being on the winning side. Apart from a minor boost from (possibly) joining Yamna's westward expansion to Europe, the principal determining event that allowed I2a1b-L621 to become a major Eastern European lineage was probably the Slavic migrations from the 6th to the 9th century CE.

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplog...DNA.shtml#I2a1

[Coolguy1]

It is interesting how its so densely present in Bosnia, Serbia, and Croatia, but are there any explanations as to why there is a large cluster in Albania?

[catgeorge]

I2a1 is very old pre R1b and R1a

I2a-Din is the Slavic marker I2a1b-L621

[Dick]

It is interesting how its so densely present in Bosnia, Serbia, and Croatia, but are there any explanations as to why there is a large cluster in Albania?

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[Herr Abubu]

Because Southern Albania was settled by a lot of Slavs, it had been in the hands of the Bulgarians and the Serbs at different times. The great amount of toponyms of Slavic origin there is a testament to that. When you have in mind that these Slavs wouldn't have only been I2 and R1 by that time, Middle and High Middle Ages, it implies an even greater amount of Slavic blood in the south of Albania than what those two haplogroups alone would imply.

[Lek]

Subjogated Bulgarians. Based on historical records.

[Sokoli]

There are ancient cities in the south and the people that founded them had slaves, hence slavic dna. That E-V13 is a slave originating haplogroup too.

[Laberia]

Is there any explanation for why this haplogroup reaches such high percentages in southern Albania?



I would think that its the leftovers from Kutmichevitsa Slavs



Either that or its somehow native?

I don't know nothing from genetics, but let's try.
First, how do you know that I2a1 is a slavic haplogroup? Seems that catgeorge have a different opinion.
Second, how can you be sure about the high concentration of this haplogroup in South Albania.
And third regarding this second map, can you tell us the source and did you noticed that according to this map most of this slavic settlements are north to Shkumbin river, which means not South but Central Albania?

[Laberia]

There are ancient cities in the south and the people that founded them had slaves, hence slavic dna. That E-V13 is a slave originating haplogroup too.

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