Indigenous Balkan I2a1 in southern Albania

[Lek]

0% I2a1b among my DNA relatives, which is why I plot like a civilized ancient beast.

This is where you plot according to Skerdilaid



When the gashi was put earlier before he plotted north east of me. These plotting maps are bullshit.

[Wrong]

This is where you plot according to Skerdilaid



When the gashi was put earlier before he plotted north east of me. These plotting maps are bullshit.

Indeed.

Could someone make a map for Gedrosia K9 ASI results? Would be interesting to see how different it looks.

Kurt despite being from more northern areas plots just at me.

[Laberia]

Sure, but that 23% Slavic dna combined with




and this



and this



plus this



and (old phylogenic name) map of i2a1b



So these provide some perspective, don't you agree? All the objections in TA can't really stop me from thinking.... hmmmm. that's weird. Amirite or amirite?

OK Scholarios, i can start to explain one by one why your pages are wrong.
But i want to repeat again the final question. What's happened to all this slavs. Were this people expelled as bubu said or assimilated? When and how happened this process? You can not ignore this questions.

[Dema]

Anyways i seem also not to have any I2a1 din relative close but i havent gone thru all of them. I noticed this earlier since i checked some of Ydnas that were done by my matches on Family Finder.
Closest Serb that i match is E-L117, then there is another with R-m269 (that is R1a right?), Then there is one more with N-P189. Then another with R-YP611 is that Albo R1b or hmm?

Then there is one more distant Serb with R-Z283, U5mtdna. Found one with I-L160 tho, he seems very far away, i think he is first I i seen among relatives also he has J1b1a1 mtdna.

[Skerdilaid]

For Tosks, maybe you are right. (though the Arbereshe studies show a lot of I2 and R1a) On Northern Greece, Battaglia did, and I think some others. It seems to me that Northern Greeks are strangely the most tested. I think Catgeorge posted those here very recently.

And it isn't just that. Look at the Greek family dna projects, this clade is found a lot there. Even if it is unorganized, it seems obvious to me. Probably some of it was even brought by Arvanites

Arbereshe do not represent the Tosk population in southern Albania, in majority, specifically the tested settlements, migrated there from Greece.

[Lek]

Indeed.

Could someone make a map for Gedrosia K9 ASI results? Would be interesting to see how different it looks.

Kurt despite being from more northern areas plots just at me.

On 23andme he plotted totally different. He scores more Balkan on 23andme than any other Albanian ive seen. DNA land he also gets 100% Balkan like me.

[Wrong]

On 23andme he plotted totally different. He scores more Balkan on 23andme than any other Albanian ive seen. DNA land he also gets 100% Balkan like me.

Would you say the little northwestern Euro admix I have on DNA land pulls me north of you guys?

In other scenarios I'd say the Balkan components pull differently, I may have some more South Balkan admixture in my DNA land, but who knows?

[Dema]

Anyways i seem also not to have any I2a1 din relative close but i havent gone thru all of them. I noticed this earlier since i checked some of Ydnas that were done by my matches on Family Finder.
Closest Serb that i match is E-L117, then there is another with R-m269 (that is R1a right?), Then there is one more with N-P189. Then another with R-YP611 is that Albo R1b or hmm?

Then there is one more distant Serb with R-Z283, U5mtdna. Found one with I-L160 tho, he seems very far away, i think he is first I i seen among relatives also he has J1b1a1 mtdna.

So ill just answer to myself as i googled it up, so R-m269 seems to be R1b, and I-L160 Sardinian

[Lek]

Would you say the little northwestern Euro admix I have on DNA land would pull me north of you guys?

I'd say the Balkan components pull differently, I may have some more South Balkan admixture in my DNA land, but who knows?

I dont know. I just think you wouldnt plot where you plot In that map. Neither you, kurt or gashi.

[Herr Abubu]

Sure, but that 23% Slavic dna combined with

23% is the minimum. You have different studies with different numbers, all higher than that. Moreover, the Slavs living in Epirus wouldn't have been exclusively I2-Din and R1a, but other haplogroups as well. Meaning that it's certain that many of Laberia's ancestors were singing iso-polyphony in a squatting position wearing Adidas track pants.