Indigenous Balkan I2a1 in southern Albania

[Hamlet]

All of it did. Look at the recent previous posts of mine.

Bronze Age Montenegrin sample plots inside the Modern Albanian cluster, no I2a1b and R1a at play, since it would pull them way further northeast, not to mention the mtdna the Slavs brought to Balkans.

That is a pretty damn massive founder effect if so, I'm going to look this up, but I'm sceptical.

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That is a pretty damn massive founder effect if so, I'm going to look this up, but I'm sceptical.

EV13 had the same effect in Kosovo Albanians, despite J2b2 being the biggest majority among Gheg Albanian highlander tribes.

[Philip Latinowitz]

Lol obz not, but Russians (more specifically Belorussians) are a much better proxy for the original Slavs than, say, Bosnians.

Belorusians yes. Russians, nope, if you observe how much non-Slavic territory they conquered in their expansion, much more than South Slavs did. I wouldn't be suprised to find fully Siberian native Russian speakers.
Btw, ''Bosnian'' is not a tribal but geographic name, so your comparison isn't valid.

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Belorusians yes. Russians, nope, if you observe how much non-Slavic territory they conquered in their expansion, much more than South Slavs did. I wouldn't be suprised to find fully Siberian native Russian speakers.
Btw, ''Bosnian'' is not a tribal but geographic name, so your comparison isn't valid.

Belarus/Poland/Northern Ukraine prolly most.

[Philip Latinowitz]

Belarus/Poland/Northern Ukraine prolly most.

Agreed. Most of the historical and archeological evidence points there.

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Albanians are subhuman retards and a disgrace to Europeans and people of European descent across the globe - keep them contained, and limit expansion and emigration.

Now retarded kike, you can stop pestering me with your trolling attempts.

The Jews that were saved in Albania should be rolling in their graves thanks to subhumans like you.

[Trojet]

This is the map i made with all the samples i had, more than 50.

I didn't tag names since it would have been a clusterfuck but as a general tendency southerners cluster more south and the most northern shifting as i said before are Albanians from Montegro.

Regarding the map, the most:

NORTHERN : Albanian from Kosovo
WESTERN: Albanian from Montenegro
EASTERN : Albanian from Macedonia
SOUTHERN: Albanian from the south

Great job Saf!
It's hard to see mine there, but anyways here is where I am

[Hamlet]

Xhak, apologise...

From Wikipedia:

I-L621

I-L621 is typical of the South Slavic populations of south-eastern Europe, being highest in Bosnia-Herzegovina (>50%) in Croats.[3] There is also a high concentration of I-L621 in north-east Romania and Moldova. Several groups have determined the common occurrence of this subclade in the South Slavic-speaking populations to be the result of "pre-Slavic" paleolithic settlement in the region. Peričić et al. for instance places its expansion to have occurred "not earlier than the YD to Holocene transition and not later than the early Neolithic”.[13][14][15] Decidedly, the Slavic population can be divided into two genetically distinct groups: one encompassing all Western-Slavic (Poles, Czechs, Slovaks, etc.), Eastern-Slavic (Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, etc.) and a few Southern-Slavic populations (north-western Croats and Slovenes), characterized by Haplogroup R1a, and one encompassing all remaining Southern Slavs (Serbs, Bosniaks, southern Croats, Montenegrins, Macedonians and Bulgarians) but also the non-Slavic Romanians, characterized by Haplogroup I2a1b2 (I-L621). According to Rebała et al., this phenomenon is explained by "contribution to the Y chromosomes of peoples who settled in the Balkan region before the Slavic expansion to the genetic heritage of Southern Slavs.[16] It is attributed to the Cucuteni-Trypillian culture in what is now modern day Ukraine, Romania and Moldova.[17]

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It's hard to see there, but anyways here is where I am:

We are close man

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Xhak, apologise...

From Wikipedia:
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Nordtvedt > 10+ year old wiki source

Fuck off now, kike. I explained how no "slavic" extra-admixture was present in ancient times.