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    Quote Originally Posted by Konpirike View Post
    Yes, right!

    However many people seem to believe that even modern Levantines ACTUALLY have Sicilian/Italian ancestry since it can appear in their population distances on the calculator. This is not necessarily true. They do score tiny amounts of European, but this European can come from who knows where. It could come from Georgians or other ethnicities like that due to mixture with Levantines. This in turn can pop up as Sicilian/Italian on calculators, but only because their autosomal composition has some similiarites with Sicilians/Italians not because they have actuall ancestry from there.
    It is the reverse... Sicilians and southern Italians have some Levantine ancestry, as do the Maltese.

    The thing to keep in mind is, this result predates the influx of people from the Caucasus region southward.

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    From which part of the Levant is this sample from? Can you link me to the paper?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Majin Buu View Post
    So ancient Levantines were more Arabian like?
    The ancient Natufians cluster far more closely to the modern day Egyptians and Arabians than to the modern Levantine population. I think it's because the ancient Levant had experienced intrusion and immigration from Anatolia, transcaucasia and even Iran which had altered the genetic genome of the Levant.

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    I've always heard there was some genetic input by the Euros (mostly French) during the Crusades in Lebanon. No? What could account for the drift towards Europe since ancient times, if not the Crusaders?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    It is the reverse... Sicilians and southern Italians have some Levantine ancestry, as do the Maltese.

    The thing to keep in mind is, this result predates the influx of people from the Caucasus region southward.
    Hmm, I believe that this is impossible to know with todays genetic testing. It could be like that or it could be the otherway around, or it could be that Sicilians/Italians and Levantines share a common ancestor, but this would not mean that Sicilians/Italians have Levantine ancestry only that they share ancestors.

    It might be true that this predates the influx of people from the caucasus region,if there ever was such an influx, however this sample seem to clearly have "Caucasus/Anatolian/WestAsian" ancestry with the SouthWest Asian ancestry being dominant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inquizzzitor View Post
    I've always heard there was some genetic input by the Euros (mostly French) during the Crusades in Lebanon. No? What could account for the drift towards Europe since ancient times, if not the Crusaders?
    They have very minor Norman, other French, and other West European in them. Mostly in the Muslims, hence why they are slightly closer to Europe genetically than Lebanese Christians even though you'd expect the opposite.

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    I wonder when they got their current ANE.

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