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    Quote Originally Posted by Iku-Kuu Aurinko&Karhu View Post
    We will move the Finnish Army to Hungary, joining forces with our Brothers. After the arrival of Tatar Volunteer Corps, sacret oaths will be taken: Brothers we shall not rest until the Earth is cleansed from the Gayreek filth. WE ARE THE MASTERS NOW! . Using the Pannonian Basin as our Base, The Hungolian Terror Squad will annihilate the Greeks in two weeks. After third week all of Balkans will be ours! We will rest for a week, enjoying the women. Then we will advance to Italy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    Alan, Sarmatian, and Ossete are all synonyms.
    not really. Ossete is a Georgian word coming from ovsi meaning person. no relation to AS or Alans.


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    A mixture, I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kipchak Håkan View Post
    not really. Ossete is a Georgian word coming from ovsi meaning person. no relation to AS or Alans.
    The words don't have the same origin, but Ossetes are descended from Alans. The Alans stopped calling themselves Alans and started calling themselves Ossetes. Ossetes and Alans are the same people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    The words don't have the same origin, but Ossetes are descended from Alans. The Alans stopped calling themselves Alans and started calling themselves Ossetes. Ossetes and Alans are the same people.
    Actually, Ossetians didn't have a singular term for the whole ethnic group prior to colonization. Ossetian is derived from Georgian Osi/Oseti, while ethnic Ossetes referred to themselves by their tribal names, such as "Iron", "Digoron" etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shah-Jehan View Post
    Actually, Ossetians didn't have a singular term for the whole ethnic group prior to colonization. Ossetian is derived from Georgian Osi/Oseti, while ethnic Ossetes referred to themselves by their tribal names, such as "Iron", "Digoron" etc.
    Whatever, but Alan and Ossete are the same thing. Ossete is just a modern name for Alans.

    Digor and Iron are the two main dialects. I've never heard of them being tribes. Also, what do you mean by "etc"? There's just Iron and Digor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    Whatever, but Alan and Ossete are the same thing. Ossete is just a modern name for Alans.

    Digor and Iron are the two main dialects. I've never heard of them being tribes. Also, what do you mean by "etc"? There's just Iron and Digor.
    The Ossetian identity evolved in the modern day, like most modern ethnic groups. There were various tribes that evolved separately, but were amalgated into a singular ethnic groups in the 20th century.

    Read this part from the book, The Caucasus - An Introduction by Frederik Coene

    https://books.google.ca/books?id=gXy...page&q&f=false


    There's actually mention of tribal groups in all sources you can find, the one below mentions sixteen Ossetian tribes

    https://books.google.ca/books?id=0X8...page&q&f=false


    In the modern age of course, they aren't tribes per se, but sub groups of the Osette population

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_people
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kudar
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digor_people

    The "Iron" subgroup is predominantly Christian too, while the "Digor" are Muslim and Christian mixed.


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    Finno-Ugric is a useless term(atleast in terms of genetics). Finno-Ugrics have more diversity between them than Slavs to Finns do.
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    divided them into clearly differentiated types, which include a Mediterranean, a Nordic, a "Guanche," and an Alpine. The "Guanche" accounts for 50 per cent of the whole on the four islands of Teneriffe, Gomera, Gran Canaria, and Hierro; the Nordic for 31 per cent, the Mediterranean for 13 per cent, and the Alpine
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    Quote Originally Posted by XenophobicPrussian View Post
    Finno-Ugric is a useless term(atleast in terms of genetics). Finno-Ugrics have more diversity between them than Slavs to Finns do.
    Finno-Ugric lingustic group ectually no longer exists.
    Look at wiki-classification of uralic languages.

    But term 'Ugrofinians' in traditional meaning described all uralic
    speaking people and N bearers - at least those who speak or
    spoke in the past being descendand from Ugrofinian people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    The words don't have the same origin, but Ossetes are descended from Alans. The Alans stopped calling themselves Alans and started calling themselves Ossetes. Ossetes and Alans are the same people.
    No Aesir?

    Polish Oset:


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