FTDNA - MyOrigins update

[Wrong]

IamnotSlav.

[Pahli]

8% Sephardic Jew? Where does that shit come from lmao.

[Dema]

I'm not saying his clade is slavic marker per se like R1a or I2a-din however his clade is mostly present in western balkans dwell by slavs, most likely his clade derives from Romanized people in Balkans who may possibly carry this hg, Kosova was known vlach settlement during middle age same goes for Bosnia where many Vlachs began to settle there.

When observing Vlach Aromun genetics there is found plenty of E-V13 but barely one example of J2b1. My hg is none existent among Vlachs unlike your is. Going by these genetic standards you are much more Vlach then i am. On the other hand Vlach is how Sclaveni called all remains of Roman empire population that they found on Balkan so again that would make us both Vlachs. There is no other term for Vlach except original Germanic meaning which is stranger.

Furthermore M205 does not exist in Slavic countries except at Balkan South Slavs that all together have TMRCA 900 years and he was not Slav (do you understand this part?) and i am far away from their group 1000 - 1500 years. Just as much as our Y22066 all together TMRCA is 1500-1600 years.

It means since we arrived in Balkan before 1500 years i split almost immediately from rest of them and i have more distance to their group then their entire TMRCA of 900 years.

What we know for sure its our hg j2b1 m205>ph4306 has Fertile Crescent origin and first expansion also we have few interesting ancient DNA like Roman gladiator found in England. https://j2-m172.info/2016/01/exogeno...ddle-eastener/

See m205 is j2b1 with Fertile Crescent origin while L283 which is J2b2>Z1825>m241>l283 is native in Blakan.


We both come out of j2b 16 000 years ago just they emigrated much earlier while we stand to defend the homeland. We escaped just in time like 300 years prior to Arab Islamic conquer of that area. That is why there is great chance we took part in Mesopotamia ancient civilizations from Sumerians and Babylonians to Persians and Assyrians.

Hoping for more ancient dna in future but there is some chance our Balkan TMRCA also improves.

So dont you Vlach me... I fucked whoever i wanted and in the end it was Albanians. For sure i would not fuck ugly Vlachs thats why my Ydna dont exist there.

I am not interested in Illyrian nor Roman or Greek history, neither Slavic one. For me scoring Sumerian ancient dna would be like telling me that i am part God.

Many civilizations had pictograms but it was them who first simplified them and gave them phonetic characteristics similar to today alphabet, not to mention they were obsessed with writing and we found plenty of their ancient texts.. Akadians the Semitic people first sacked Sumerians when their civilization started to fall. Out of their ruins Babylon has rise. Story of first book starts with Sumer, but these are stories for another thread and perhaps another time

[Embryo]

When observing Vlach Aromun genetics there is found plenty of E-V13 but barely one example of J2b1. My hg is none existent among Vlachs unlike your is. Going by these genetic standards you are much more Vlach then i am. On the other hand Vlach is how Sclaveni called all remains of Roman empire population that they found on Balkan so again that would make us both Vlachs. There is no other term for Vlach except original germanic meaning which is stranger.

Furthermore M205 does not exist in Slavic countries except at Balkan South Slavs that all together have TMRCA 900 years and he was not Slav (do you understand this part?) and i am far away from their group 1000 - 1500 years. Just as much as our Y22066 all together TMRCA is 1500-1600 years.

It means since we arrived in Balkan before 1500 years i split almost immediately from rest of them and i have more distance to their group then their entire TMRCA of 900 years.

What we know for sure its our hg j2b1 m205>ph4306 has Fertile Cresent origin and first expansion also we have few interesting ancient DNA like Roman gladiator found in England. https://j2-m172.info/2016/01/exogeno...ddle-eastener/

See m205 is j2b1 with Fertile Cresent origin while L283 which is J2b2>Z1825>m241>l283 is native in Blakan.


We both come out of j2b 16 000 years ago just they emigrated much earlier while we stand to defend the homeland. We escaped just in time like 300 years prior to Arab Islamic conquer of that area. That is why there is great chance we took part in Mesopotamia ancient civilisations from Sumerians and Babylonians to Persians and Assyrians.

Hoping for more ancient dna in future but there is some chance our Balkan TMRCA also improves.

So dont you Vlach me... I fucked whoever i wanted and in the end it was Albanians. For sure i would not fuck ugly Vlachs thats why my Ydna dont exist there.

I am not interested in Illyrian nor Roman or Greek history, neither Slavic one. For me scoring Sumerian ancient dna would be like telling me that i am part God.

Many civilizations had pictograms but it was them who first simplified it and gave it phonetic characteristics similar to today alphabet, not to mention they were obsessed with writing and we found plenty of their ancient texts.. Akadians the Semitic people first sacked Sumerians whhen their civilisation started to fall. Out of their ruins Babylon has rise. Story of first book starts with Sumer, but these are stories for another thread and perhaps another time

It is possible vlachs have j2b2, j2b1 and j2a I think

[Kriptc06]

It changed me from 98% euro and the rest Amerindian to 93% euro and 5% Middle East and rest Amerindian.

youre mestizo

[Dema]

It is possible vlachs have j2b2, j2b1 and j2a I think

Vlach - Aromuns are j2b2, E-v13, R1b and from Slavs they got R1a and I2a-din. Only one was j2b1.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...5.00251.x/full

[jingorex]

It changed me from 98% euro and the rest Amerindian to 93% euro and 5% Middle East and rest Amerindian.

I thought i saved the first one but cant find it in the bucket thats too bad. anyway here is the updated:

[Embryo]

Vlach - Aromuns are j2b2, E-v13, R1b and from Slavs they got R1a and I2a-din. Only one was j2b1.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...5.00251.x/full

I don't see anything regarding J-L283, they only mention J2-M172?

[Trojet]

It is possible vlachs have j2b2, j2b1 and j2a I think

I have looked at these STRs. All of J (48%) in Aromanians from Dukas, Albania is J2b2-L283 and likely PH1751, but if so it would appear to be very distant from the "Gheg Albanian" PH1751, as they have DYS388=17 vs 15, which is very slow to mutate

[Embryo]

I have looked at these STRs. The J in Aromanians from Dukas, Albania is almost all (over 40%) J2b2-L283 and most likely PH1751, but if so it would be very distant from the "Gheg Albanian" PH1751, as they have DYS388=17 which is very slow to mutate

Ultimate proof I think that Albanians and the haplogroup J2b2 is some sort of Illyrian/Thracian/Hellenic haplo, considering Vlachs are native balkanites anyway.