FTDNA - MyOrigins update

[Dema]

I don't see anything regarding J-L283, they only mention J2-M172?

there are str markers in that research made public. its not so easy to see.

[Trojet]

I don't see anything regarding J-L283, they only mention J2-M172?

There is STR analysis brother, as they usually don't test for deep SNPs below J2-M172, like L283, etc... Dema is right, they do have considerable amount of J2b2-L283...

[Dema]

Ultimate proof I think that Albanians and the haplogroup J2b2 is some sort of Illyrian/Thracian/Hellenic haplo, considering Vlachs are native balkanites anyway.

Yes most of Vlachs are Romanized/Latinized Illyrians. It would be strange if there would not be j2b2 E-v13 or R1b among them.

[Embryo]

Dema is right, they do have considerable amount of J2b2-L283...

Very cool and good, but I dont think romanians have that much J2b2 or PH1751 right?

[Trojet]

Very cool and good, but I dont think romanians have that much J2b2 or PH1751 right?

Romanians do have some actually, at about 6-8% according to a study I saw, which is higher than Balkan average outside of Albanians. According to STRs from that study I didn't see any that could be PH1751 subclade.

[Trojet]

I have also looked at a study of Apulians (Italy). Some of their J2b2 appears to be likely PH1751

[Embryo]

I have also looked at a study of Apulians (Italy). Some of their J2b2 appears to be likely PH1751

Interesting, thats where the messapians (thought to have been illyrians and Indo-Europeans) settled

[Wrong]

Ultimate proof I think that Albanians and the haplogroup J2b2 is some sort of Illyrian/Thracian/Hellenic haplo, considering Vlachs are native balkanites anyway.

Told ya broder.

[Trojet]

Interesting, thats where the messapians (thought to have been illyrians and Indo-Europeans) settled

It would be interesting if we get some confirmation through FTDNA testing along with a TMRCA estimate, but those areas appear to be heavily under-tested. I would expect this subclade to show up in Bulgaria as well though. There is already a Greek example, but may be Arvanite.

[Dema]

Ultimate proof I think that Albanians and the haplogroup J2b2 is some sort of Illyrian/Thracian/Hellenic haplo, considering Vlachs are native balkanites anyway.

I think j2b2 was at least Pelasgian, Illyrian, Thracian, Hellenic, Roman.

It is very nicely spread thru area and it has nice TMRCA. Also Italy and Greece are rich in it so everything falls into its place.

Its strange tho Vinca and Starcevo are already tested but we yet cant test Illyrian samples. Also Ancient Greeks are not tested as far as i know.