FTDNA - MyOrigins update

[Kelmendasi]

This is Med , not Balkan actually

Not really. The main reference populations are Balkanites. It's Southeast Europe like Ftdna says

[knowledge is king]

No need to be shy. You should order it and post the results here so we can see it. Who is the first?

[Kelmendasi]

No need to be shy. You should order it and post the results here so we can see it. Who is the first?

Will see. It seems interesting and cool but I don't know how accurate it is since I haven't even heard of this feature before must be a new feature

[DarknessWin]

Not really. The main reference populations are Balkanites. It's Southeast Europe like Ftdna says

Read what it say , its based in Romans and Greeks so this is Med and not Balkan.

[Kelmendasi]

Read what it say , its based in Romans and Greeks so this is Med and not Balkan.

I have read it as I scored 100% Southeast Europe lol. It says that these people are the most related to the Neolithic farmers that settled there, it is Med in a sense since the Balkans are Med but it isn't conclusively Med, the reference for this category is Italy, Greece and the Balkans although it is mostly concentrated in the Balkans as Balkanites are the ones that score 100% of this mainly Albos, I would like to see some more Greek results tbh and see if they also score 100% Southeast Euro as well

[DarknessWin]

I have read it as I scored 100% Southeast Europe lol. It says that these people are the most related to the Neolithic farmers that settled there, it is Med in a sense since the Balkans are Med but it isn't conclusively Med, the reference for this category is Italy, Greece and the Balkans although it is mostly concentrated in the Balkans as Balkanites are the ones that score 100% of this mainly Albos, I would like to see some more Greek results tbh and see if they also score 100% Southeast Euro as well

Illyrians must score east Europe or British isles (Celtic) , so this dont make sense

[Kelmendasi]

Illyrians must score east Europe or British isles (Celtic) , so this dont make sense

Maybe or maybe not we will never know I guess lol but I wouldn't say East Europe as that is linked with Slavs in the new MyOrigins but they definitely were mainly Southeast Europe . I didn't make up the reference Ftdna did and it mainly seems to be of Balkan influence and not Italian as you don't see Italians getting 100% Southeast Europe but Balkanites on the other hand do, and I don't know where you saw it saying that it is Greek and Roman, it does mention them but it doesn't say that the cluster is made up of those groups. Have you tested?

[Kelmendasi]

From Ftdna: "Southeast Europe

The Southeast Europe cluster consists of present day populations from the areas of Italy, Greece, and the western Balkan states from Bulgaria to Croatia.

Present day populations in the Southeast Europe cluster show some of the highest rates of genetic relatedness to the second wave of migration into Europe roughly 11,000 years ago. This wave of migration consisted of Neolithic farmers from the fertile crescent and expanded primarily into southern Europe, incorporating small scattered European hunter-gatherer communities along their path.

The island of Sardinia, having early evidence of postglacial hunter-gatherer inhabitants, was not permanently settled until this migration of Neolithic farmers from the fertile crescent populated it roughly 8,000 – 7,000 years ago. Although a key position in early Mediterranean trade routes, the populations of Sardinia remained relatively isolated genetically, and today, represent a particularly unique connection to Southeast European Neolithic ancestry.

Populations within the Italian peninsula and Greek and Baltic states, however, display more genetic diversity having experienced waves of migration and the rise and fall of numerous civilizations. The Ancient populations on the Italian peninsula generally consisted of the Greek colonies in the south, Etruscan cities in west-central Italy and north of Rome, and Italian cultures – such as Samnites and the Umbrians - who inhabited Rome and central Italy. The western Baltics were largely small kingdoms until the rise of Alexander the Great’s father Philip II of Macedon (present day Macedonia).

Migrations from Alexander the Great and the Roman expansion, as well as migrations from Slavic tribes, having been forced from the Carpathians by Germanic tribes in the 5th - 6th centuries, into this region illustrate the international reach of these early civilizations.

The Southeast Europe cluster is home to civilizations that many consider to have founded the principles of Western civilization, and continue to influence modern politics, art, and architecture. Greek and Roman influence spans the western and southern regions of this cluster, while the influence of the Hellenistic world of Macedonia and Alexander the Great encompass the Western Balkan states."
Btw the author or whatever they are called accidentally calls the western Balkans Baltic at one point

[DarknessWin]

From Ftdna: "Southeast Europe

The Southeast Europe cluster consists of present day populations from the areas of Italy, Greece, and the western Balkan states from Bulgaria to Croatia.

Present day populations in the Southeast Europe cluster show some of the highest rates of genetic relatedness to the second wave of migration into Europe roughly 11,000 years ago. This wave of migration consisted of Neolithic farmers from the fertile crescent and expanded primarily into southern Europe, incorporating small scattered European hunter-gatherer communities along their path.

The island of Sardinia, having early evidence of postglacial hunter-gatherer inhabitants, was not permanently settled until this migration of Neolithic farmers from the fertile crescent populated it roughly 8,000 – 7,000 years ago. Although a key position in early Mediterranean trade routes, the populations of Sardinia remained relatively isolated genetically, and today, represent a particularly unique connection to Southeast European Neolithic ancestry.

Populations within the Italian peninsula and Greek and Baltic states, however, display more genetic diversity having experienced waves of migration and the rise and fall of numerous civilizations. The Ancient populations on the Italian peninsula generally consisted of the Greek colonies in the south, Etruscan cities in west-central Italy and north of Rome, and Italian cultures – such as Samnites and the Umbrians - who inhabited Rome and central Italy. The western Baltics were largely small kingdoms until the rise of Alexander the Great’s father Philip II of Macedon (present day Macedonia).

Migrations from Alexander the Great and the Roman expansion, as well as migrations from Slavic tribes, having been forced from the Carpathians by Germanic tribes in the 5th - 6th centuries, into this region illustrate the international reach of these early civilizations.

The Southeast Europe cluster is home to civilizations that many consider to have founded the principles of Western civilization, and continue to influence modern politics, art, and architecture. Greek and Roman influence spans the western and southern regions of this cluster, while the influence of the Hellenistic world of Macedonia and Alexander the Great encompass the Western Balkan states."
Btw the author or whatever they are called accidentally calls the western Balkans Baltic at one point

Yeah but if you see the map its mostly italy and Greece with the darker color and then is the west balkan so this make it mostly Med populations.
anyway......

[Kelmendasi]

Yeah but if you see the map its mostly italy and Greece with the darker color and then is the west balkan so this make it mostly Med populations.
anyway......

Yes I agree that those regions are darker, but still they don't seem to make up the bulk of this category as they don't score 100% Southeast Europe not sure about Greeks though but Italians for one don't score 100% of it.