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    Quote Originally Posted by Seya View Post
    u're talking about modern era and even then japan copied the western model of society. they have their achievement, of course, but still..to be a Japanese and to look down to Chinese people..this is beyond ridiculous...
    Most Japanese don't necessarily look down on Chinese people. Most japanese are actually more scared about china trying to possibly occupy them in the future. They are pacifists now ( normal People). Japanese are also polite people but because of their ancestors previous to them, it still leaves a distaste to the memories of other asians from older generations. But both are polite people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin View Post
    Most Japanese don't necessarily look down on Chinese people. Most japanese are actually more scared about china trying to possibly occupy them in the future. They are pacifists now ( normal People). Japanese are also polite people but because of their ancestors previous to them, it still leaves a distaste to the memories of other asians from older generations. But both are polite people.
    I would say that the older Japanese looked down on Chinese people, because at the time, Japan was modern and powerful and China was poor and backwards. Most younger Japanese are more afraid of China than anything else.

    I agree that most Japanese, especially the young ones, are polite people and easy to get along with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhaoyun View Post
    I would say that the older Japanese looked down on Chinese people, because at the time, Japan was modern and powerful and China was poor and backwards. Most younger Japanese are more afraid of China than anything else.

    I agree that most Japanese, especially the young ones, are polite people and easy to get along with.
    I wouldn't say they were backward. They were still very smart people but they were too traditionalists when it came to economy. Its mainly their pride that let them get in the way of adapting to new circumstance. China was too proud of their golden eras. But china has managed to recollect itself and be more flexible now so its doing good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin View Post
    I wouldn't say they were backward. They were still very smart people but they were too traditionalists when it came to economy. Its mainly their pride that let them get in the way of adapting to new circumstance. China was too proud of their golden eras. But china has managed to recollect itself and be more flexible now so its doing good.
    Well, the modern era was traumatic to the Chinese psyche which was arrogant and traditionalist. It took all that trauma to force them to reinvent themselves, which they have and are still doing rapidly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhaoyun View Post
    Just the fact you think Chinese are grouped with Cambodians racially and culturally just proves you're trolling.

    You're ignorant AF. Don't waste my time.
    He's definitely trolling though and most of the shit coming out from his mouth never had anything to do with facts. I wouldn't call him ignorant, more like desperate to get to you. Too bad he sucks at getting a rise out of most Chinese people

    Quite amusing how his very tone seems to suggest that Cambodians are an inferior people yet Cambodians aren't the ones pretending or wanting to be related to other peoples. Very unlike MENA Turkish people who are basically disgusting big nosed, rapey, hairy Arab brownies trying to pass off as smooth skin, pale skinned Central Asians. Either way, Cambodians might be poor and starving but the average Cambodian is worth 1000 times more than a good Anatolian.

    Besides, Cambodians have their charms and many are in fact quite attractive especially when compared to Turkish :


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    Both the Viets and the Koreans missed becoming Han Chinese by a hair. They were both deep into the process of assimilation.
    To be fair, assimilating Vietnamese would have been an almost impossible task. For about 1000 years, the Chinese ruled Vietnam yet they always ended up driving off the Chinese. The Chinese did burn Vietnamese books, forbade them to practice their culture and warred against dissenters. I think Viets have a proud history of defending their homeland and culture thus a complete assimilation of Vietnamese would only happen over their dead bodies.

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    Only Chinese, Koreans and Vietnamese people have three syllabic names. Japanese, SE Asians, Mongols do not.
    I agree that Japanese don't have Chinese derived surnames like the Koreans and Vietnamese but three syllabic names are possible.

    Three syllabic names according to sound can be Jun Mori, Yuu Ito or Mio Sato.

    Some Japanese names can also be written in three characters. Some examples include 谷川聖 or 茂木忍.

    Quote Originally Posted by zhaoyun View Post
    The greatest irony of this thread is that I have some Middle Eastern guy on this thread trolling Chinese people, who unarguably have by far the greatest and most glorious history and civilization among all Asian groups, have incomparably the most power of any Asian ethnic/racial group, and on top of that, is a rising future global superpower, and trying to paint Chinese people as being some sort of losers trying desperately to be accepted by Koreans and Japanese, whose countries are dominated by China's shadow. LOL
    It goes without saying. Everyone in the world knows that Turkish people are MENA including themselves. I call them Turds (Kurds claiming to be Turkics)

    Whenever a Turkish, Mexican, African, Arab or Indian person tries to imply that Chinese are inferior, I feel amused and not annoyed. All I see is a talking bag of shit. Kind of like this guy

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    Turks were never from Mongoloid race and the Altaic language family is discredited now as linguists go to proto-levels of Turkic, Japanese and Mongolian these languages become less similar (if they shared same origins they would be more similar) so they believe more and more similarities are results of living next to each other for long time.
    Also the most Mongoloid Turkic remnants corpse from Eastern Turkic Kaghanate tested so far is %65 Mongoloid and still %35 Europid while some others from Mongolia until %60 Caucasoid despite the Ashina rulers class had sometimes Chinese royal wives from Tang Dynasty etc. Whereas in the same time Turkic peoples lived more west until Urals and lots more Europid.
    Btw the Orkhon scripts in Mongolia are earliest written records in Turkish and story says I mean Ashinas explain how Chinese are sneaky and how Turks fall in their traps. So Turks scratched on stones in Mongolia how Chinks are sneaky. Whateva...
    Turkic peoples not north East Asians. Imo Finno-Ugric are closest to Turkic peoples.
    North East Asians: Japan, Mongols, Manchu, Koreans, Tungus

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    Of course we know that you Turkish people were never mongoloids. Come on, give us some more credit than that. Our eyes are small but we're not blind


    As for the Turks you're referring to, you probably mean the Gokturks. Chinese call them Tujue after the shape of the Altai Mountains where they came from. Historical depictions never described them as Caucasoid or Arab looking, in fact their physical differences were rarely mentioned.

    Here's an old statue of an ancient blue Turk. Looks pretty mongoloid to me and nothing like people from Istanbul or Ankara

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taiji View Post
    Whenever a Turkish, Mexican, African, Arab or Indian person tries to imply that Chinese are inferior, I feel amused and not annoyed. All I see is a talking bag of shit. Kind of like this guy
    I'm an Indian living in California. I'm a San Francisco Bay Area native but have relatives all over the state (LA, San Diego, Fresno, etc). I can you tell you that if I could, I would deport every spic, beaner,Black and Californian White from here and split this place up between Indians and Chinese-Americans.

    You Chinese get 50% of the state and Indians get the other half. We live separately and don't interact, but carve up the territory amongst ourselves.

    Yes it's a joke but it would be very ideal.

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    Chink, remnants of Tujue Ashinas of easternmost Turkic Kaghanate are tested. Even Turkic from Altai have R1a ydna unlike Tang Chinks who are all C. We descend straight from Turkic Kaghanate with state continuity, language, blood and all aspects and you cant do anything about that.
    Just like wannabe Han Chinese are south East Asians closest to Tibetans and Filipinos no matter what you wish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taiji View Post
    Of course we know that you Turkish people were never mongoloids. Come on, give us some more credit than that. Our eyes are small but we're not blind


    As for the Turks you're referring to, you probably mean the Gokturks. Chinese call them Tujue after the shape of the Altai Mountains where they came from. Historical
    depictions never described them as Caucasoid or Arab looking
    , in fact their physical differences were rarely mentioned.

    Here's an old statue of an ancient blue Turk. Looks pretty mongoloid to me and nothing like people from Istanbul or Ankara
    Autosomal DNA decides it, You Dog Eating Imbecile, not descriptions, Now You show once again how stupid you are

    Here is Gokturk oracle, Göktürks were 61-62% East Eurasian

    Gedrosia K12 Oracle results:

    Gedrosia K12 Oracle


    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 W_SIBERIAN 27.44
    2 SE_ASIAN 20.37
    3 SINTASHTA_STEPPE_HERDERS 16.44
    4 E_SIBERIAN 9.77
    5 CAUCASUS 8.67
    6 BALOCHI 8.29
    7 INDO_TIBETAN 4.48
    8 EARLY_EUROPEAN_FARMERS 3.31
    9 S_INDIAN 0.96
    10 SUB_SAHARAN 0.27

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Uzbek 20.26
    2 Turkmen_Afghan 24.17
    3 Yukagir 33.11
    4 Ulchi 34.44
    5 Uzbek_Afghan 35.68
    6 Turks_Aydin 36.83
    7 Turks_Balikesir 39.03
    8 Turks_Istanbul 43.69
    9 Tajik_Afghan 44.62
    10 Tajik_Pomiri 46.64
    11 Pashtun_Afghan 47.01
    12 Naga 47.23
    13 Mongola 48.38
    14 Kurds_SE 48.57
    15 Kurds_C 49.66
    16 Kurds_N 50.48
    17 Pathan 51.15
    18 Turks_Adana 51.31
    19 Kurds_F 51.34
    20 Kurds_E 51.43

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 59.9% Turkmen_Afghan + 40.1% Ulchi @ 9.85
    2 65.1% Uzbek + 34.9% Ulchi @ 9.95
    3 56.4% Ulchi + 43.6% Tajik_Pomiri @ 10.57
    4 64.6% Uzbek + 35.4% Yukagir @ 10.78
    5 60% Turkmen_Afghan + 40% Yukagir @ 13.29
    6 52% Ulchi + 48% Uzbek_Afghan @ 14.23
    7 51.1% Ulchi + 48.9% Tajik_Afghan @ 14.39
    8 64.1% Ulchi + 35.9% Russian @ 14.58
    9 58.9% Ulchi + 41.1% Pashtun_Afghan @ 14.6
    10 86% Uzbek + 14% Nganasan @ 14.93
    11 65.3% Ulchi + 34.7% Norwegian @ 15.13
    12 65.9% Ulchi + 34.1% Finnish @ 15.79
    13 52.4% Yukagir + 47.6% Tajik_Afghan @ 15.84
    14 74% Uzbek + 26% Mongola @ 15.93
    15 53.4% Yukagir + 46.6% Uzbek_Afghan @ 15.96
    16 66.4% Turkmen_Afghan + 33.6% Mongola @ 16.15
    17 68.1% Ulchi + 31.9% Estonian @ 16.24
    18 68.7% Ulchi + 31.3% Lithuanian @ 16.29
    19 60.1% Ulchi + 39.9% Kurds_SE @ 16.3
    20 60.1% Ulchi + 39.9% Turks_Istanbul @ 16.54



    Near East Neolithic K13 Oracle results:

    gedrosia K13 Oracle

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 SIBERIAN 37.25
    2 SE_ASIAN 18.2
    3 EHG 14.74
    4 CHG_EEF 10.03
    5 IRAN_NEOLITHIC 6.73
    6 POLAR 6.41
    7 ANCESTRAL_INDIAN 2.23
    8 KARITIANA 2.11
    9 SHG_WHG 1.92
    10 SUB_SAHARAN 0.2
    11 ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 0.19

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Altaian 10.13
    2 Kyrgyz 12.33
    3 Kalmyk 19.28
    4 Mansi 20.25
    5 Hazara 20.56
    6 Uygur 21.3
    7 Uzbek 23.51
    8 Turkmen 28.39
    9 Ulchi 31.66
    10 Yukagir 32.07
    11 Nogai 33.55
    12 Yakut 34.71
    13 Steppe_IA 42.57
    14 Turkish_Aydin 42.73
    15 Turkish_Balıkesir 43.33
    16 Turkish 43.44
    17 Turkish_Istanbul 43.46
    18 Tajik 45.15
    19 Balkar 46.61
    20 Mongola 47.64

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 88% Altaian + 12% MA1 @ 5.41
    2 83.6% Altaian + 16.4% Steppe_IA @ 5.59
    3 63.9% Kyrgyz + 36.1% Mansi @ 5.6
    4 86.6% Altaian + 13.4% Steppe_MLBA @ 5.61
    5 91.1% Altaian + 8.9% Steppe_EMBA @ 5.7
    6 90.5% Altaian + 9.5% Steppe_Eneolithic @ 5.75
    7 91.5% Altaian + 8.5% EHG @ 5.84
    8 70.9% Altaian + 29.1% Mansi @ 6.33
    9 87.6% Altaian + 12.4% Europe_LNBA @ 6.75
    10 87.7% Altaian + 12.3% Lezgin @ 7.29
    11 85.9% Altaian + 14.1% Tajik @ 7.3
    12 87.5% Altaian + 12.5% Chechen @ 7.37
    13 69% Mansi + 31% Mongola @ 7.52
    14 87.6% Altaian + 12.4% Kumyk @ 7.55
    15 63.9% Ulchi + 36.1% Steppe_MLBA @ 7.66
    16 89.7% Altaian + 10.3% Armenia_MLBA @ 7.75
    17 88.3% Altaian + 11.7% Adygei @ 7.79
    18 88.8% Altaian + 11.2% Russian @ 7.79
    19 73% Mansi + 27% Japanese @ 7.84
    20 89.2% Altaian + 10.8% Finnish @ 7.87
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