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    Lack of I in Balkans = new arrivals from somewhere else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catgeorge View Post
    Lack of I in Balkans = new arrivals from somewhere else.
    Lack of Medieval Slavic ancestry*.

    Let's not forget R1a which is also Medieval Slavic and not the Scythian Z93 branch. It can reach up to 30% in some Greek areas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Boss View Post
    Lack of Medieval Slavic ancestry*.

    Let's not forget R1a which is also Medieval Slavic and not the Scythian Z93 branch. It can reach up to 30% in some Greek areas.
    *Ottoman settlers from Caucasia.
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    100+ Gheg samples and only 3 I2a1b-Din, the rest is I1 Goth/Norman and I2c.

    https://www.familytreedna.com/groups.../about/results

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    Quote Originally Posted by catgeorge View Post
    *Ottoman settlers from Caucasia.
    Ancient samples from the Balkans proved you wrong again. Low IQ retard nationalist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Boss View Post
    Ancient samples from the Balkans proved you wrong again. Low IQ retard nationalist.
    Truth will set you free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Boss View Post
    Ancient samples from the Balkans proved you wrong again. Low IQ retard nationalist.
    Ancient BAlkanites SPOKE a LANGuAge similar to modern Slavic meeen !!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trilecce View Post
    Tsar Dushans leftovers. Same area is home to many vlachs and is the most ethnically diverse albanian land. Unlike the north where there is extreme ethnic homogeneity
    I dont think it was the result of Serbs but rather of Bulgars. We have to remember that a large portion of Albania was under the First Bulgarian Empire that lasted from the 7th to 11th centuries. The toponyms are also more similar to those found in FYROM and Bulgaria than in Serbia. This area that is now part of Albania was called Kutmichevitsa and played an important role in the formation of Bulgarian state. An important center in this area was Berat, which is derived from "Belgrad"

    Even in Korca you can find remnants of these Slavs who are now almost completely Albanized in the villages of Boboshtica and Drenova...

    According to German linguist Gustav Weigand, during the first decades of the 20th century, Bulgarian villages Boboschtitza and Drenowo were a Bulgarian linguistic island in Albania.[13] The historian Ivan Snegarov noted in 1934 significant processes of albanization among the local Bulgarians.[4] The majority of the population of the village was Bulgarian until 1960. Then the mass migration of Vlachs began, while the old local population emigrated to the cities in Albania.[14]

    According to some scientists Boboshticë and the neighboring Drenovë were the only villages in which the Korča dialect of the Macedonian language was still spoken (as of 1991).[15] According to linguist Xhelal Ylli, following a visit to the village in 2005, only five or six speakers remained living in the village.[16] The dialect is classified as part of Bulgarian dialects by other authors.[17][18][14] Some Bulgarian linguists emphasize that the reflexes of yat in this western Bulgarian dialect is wide, like it is in Eastern Bulgarian dialects.[19][20]

    Dhimitër Theodhor Çanço (Tsantso) was a teacher from the village who wrote the historical "Memorandia", a collection of oral transmitted historical facts, as well as documentary facts. The "Memorandia" was written in Greek. The original copy belongs to the person's family. It was copied by two of Canco's nephews and the copy is part of Albanian Archives. In his memoirs, written in Greek, Tcanko defined the local villagers as Orthodox Christians who speak a Bulgarian dialect.[21] Andre Mazon, an expert in Slavic studies, has published an exceptional source of information it in his Documents slaves de l'Albanie de Sud, II, pieces complemetaires (Paris, Institut d'Etudes Slaves, 1965), where Bulgarian scholar Maria Filipova performed the translation from Greek to French.[22]





    It is also true that the Aromanians brought a large amount of I2 to the southern Balkans, suggesting that their original homeland is further north.

    Paternal and maternal lineages in the Balkans show a homogeneous landscape over linguistic barriers, except for the isolated Aromuns

    Link to the study below

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...5.00251.x/full

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    First of all Slavs were not I2a1 and
    Second no group belong to just 1 haplo

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightrider+ View Post
    Because it could still be native Balkanic (maybe northwestern) that rapidly expanded at some point in time. Slavic expansion the way most people imagine it is another bullshit theory that relies on barely any evidence. We know for sure they migrated to Greece/Eastern Roman Empire but we don't know the exact origin of the people that did this. They could very well be similar to modern South Slavs. Even Illyrians, Thracians, Dardanians etc. could have spoken an earlier version of Slavic for all we know.
    You have to options:
    1)The mainstream theory of the slavic invasion.
    2)Sathas theory about Albanians who overruned Greece until Cyprus.
    Illyrians, Thracians, etc, speaking a slavic language, sounds something like Veliki Aleksandrov.

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