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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    Oh. But do they belong to the same exact snp/cluster or not?
    no idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by mongrel View Post
    no idea
    I2a1b L621. some sources say it came to the Balkans with the thracians

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
    I2a1b L621. some sources say it came to the Balkans with the thracians
    Doubt it
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    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
    They fucked like rabbits and had 10+ kids per family since the middle ages. What else are you gonna do in the mountans other than fuck and eat.
    This is called "founder effect".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    Doubt it
    Why? Is that the subclade in question here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
    I2a1b L621. some sources say it came to the Balkans with the thracians
    pssible but the ancient bulgarian samples in the last study were I2a2, R1b, R1a Z93, T1a1, G2a, C , H2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
    Why? Is that the subclade in question here?
    Doubt it since it's the clade that South Slavs have the most. Not sure if OP was talking about this exact subclade though
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    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    What I find weird is how Romanians have such high I2a-Din even though they aren't Slavs. Perhaps it's due to genetic drift
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    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    What I find weird is how Romanians have such high I2a-Din even though they aren't Slavs. Perhaps it's due to genetic drift
    baltic drift

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    What I find weird is how Romanians have such high I2a-Din even though they aren't Slavs. Perhaps it's due to genetic drift
    It's also high in Vlachs of Albania, 30-40% I2a1b frequency.

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