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    The fact that I2a1b was found in north-western Europe could mean that it actually was from Goths, perhaps Deymark was correct lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Boss View Post
    It's also high in Vlachs of Albania, 30-40% I2a1b frequency.
    Vlachs/Aromanians of Albania also have a massive amount of J2b2-L283
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    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    The fact that I2a1b was found in north-western Europe could mean that it actually was from Goths, perhaps Deymark was correct lol
    Cosmoo said that iirc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    Vlachs/Aromanians of Albania also have a massive amount of J2b2-L283
    Yes, they probably picked it up from the Dinaric mountains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Boss View Post
    Cosmoo said that iirc.
    Yes he did but Deymark kept on claiming it as well
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    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Boss View Post
    It's also high in Vlachs of Albania, 30-40% I2a1b frequency.
    i've seen some Greek texts where the term vlach is used to refer to medieval isolated slavic-speaking populations of Greece .

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    Quote Originally Posted by mongrel View Post
    i've seen some Greek texts where the term vlach is used to refer to medieval isolated slavic-speaking populations of Greece .
    Maybe a fair bit of them are Latinized Slavs, before the Cyril & Methodius.

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    There is no proof of I2-DIN being slav,I2-DIN is a native european haplogroup ,it one of the original haplo of HG,only albanians on TA believe its a slavic haplogroup.
    The slavic look in balkans is rare especially on zones were I2-DIN is the highest were the slavic look its non-existent.

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    According to Eupedia, Vlachs have a higher amount of J2 than I
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flea View Post
    There is no proof of I2-DIN being slav,I2-DIN is a native european haplogroup ,it one of the original haplo of HG,only albanians on TA believe its a slavic haplogroup.
    The slavic look in balkans is rare especially on zones were I2-DIN is the highest were the slavic look its non-existent.
    I2-Din is nowhere found in Balkan Ancient samples. The only I2 found is I2a2 and barely exists anymore in Balkans, which is common in Northwest Germany, but even that is not the same subclade.

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