Indigenous Balkan I2a1 in southern Albania

[Wrong]

There wasn't only one G2a, what are you talking about? Also all the I2a was I2a2(Pre-Celtic-Germanic)

The I2a2 wasnt even the same line as the Germanic one.

[Kelmendasi]

The I2a2 wasnt even the same line as the Germanic one.

Yh it's pre-Germanic

[Coolguy1]

Yh it's pre-Germanic

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplog...NA.shtml#I2a1a

Scroll down and find the i2a2 map, apparently its still present in northern Greece/Southern Albania in small amounts.

[Flea]

There wasn't only one G2a, what are you talking about? Also all the I2a was I2a2(Pre-Celtic-Germanic)

I talk about there was 1 G2A on bronze balkan settlement,the neolitic one would have clearly scored fully neolitic .......i already posted why having no i2a1 was no problem..

[Kelmendasi]

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplog...NA.shtml#I2a1a

Scroll down and find the i2a2 map, apparently its still present in northern Greece/Southern Albania in small amounts.

Yh. Before this study got released I bet most people would of said that I2a2 in Albania and Greece is due to Normans but this study proves it's native

[Kelmendasi]

I talk about there was 1 G2A on bronze balkan settlement,the neolitic one would have clearly scored fully neolitic .......i already posted why having no i2a1 was no problem..

Dude you have to know that so far evidence is backing up the Slavic origin of I2a-Din in the Balkans but hey there was I2a1b found in Sweden so you can claim to be Gothic again

[Flea]

Dude you have to know that so far evidence is backing up the Slavic origin of I2a-Din in the Balkans but hey there was I2a1b found in Sweden so you can claim to be Gothic again

What evidence,only in TA you see i2-din claimed as slavic.Do you know what slavic means in context of balkans?It means Yugoslavs,not russians.Yugoslavs by blood have nothing to do with russians,only language is slavic and counties with most I2-DIN look the least slavic.R1A is the slavic continuity in yugoslavs.
so far if i open any big wsite like eupedia i2din is regarded as paleo-balkanic and one fully european haplo,it did not come with slav,it could have been found spread throughout all the right half of Europe.

[Kelmendasi]

What evidence,only in TA you see i2-din claimed as slavic.Do you know what slavic means in context of balkans?It means Yugoslavs,not russians.
so far if i open any big wsite like eupedia i2din is regarded as paleo-balkanic and one fully european haplo,it did not come with slav,it could have been found spread throughout all the right half of Europe.

Eupedia now claims it to be Slavic dude, go check for yourself. This is what Eupedia says about I2a1b: "The I2a1b-L147.2 subclade seems to have expanded very fast from 1900 years ago, which is concordant with the timing of the Slavic ethnogenesis, considering that it takes a few centuries before one man can have enough male descendants to start having an impact at the scale of a population. This I2-L147.2 ancestor would have such an impact on the burgeoning Early Slavic population, still small 2,300 years ago, but booming.

After the Germanic tribes living in eastern Germany and Poland, like the Goths, the Vandals and the Burgundians, invaded the Roman Empire, the Slavs living further east filled the vacuum. Following the collapse of the Western Roman Empire in 476, the Slavs moved in the Dinaric Alps and the Balkans. By the 9th century, the Slavs occupied all modern Slavic-speaking territories, apart from the eastern Balkans under the control of the Turkic-speaking Bulgars.

Nowadays northern Slavic countries have between 9% (Poland, Czech republic) and 21% (Ukraine) of I2a-L621, while southern Slavs have between 20% (Bulgaria) and 50% (Bosnia). The higher percentage of I2a-Din in the south is probably just due to another founder effect due to the fact that the South Slavs originated in western Ukraine, where the ratio of I2a to R1a was higher. Virtually all Dinaric I2a falls under the L147.2 branch, and the majority to the S17250 ramification, who descend from a common patrilinear ancestor who lived only 1,800 years ago."

[Lek]

What evidence,only in TA you see i2-din claimed as slavic.Do you know what slavic means in context of balkans?It means Yugoslavs,not russians.Yugoslavs by blood have nothing to do with russians,only language is slavic and counties with most I2-DIN look the least slavic.R1A is the slavic continuity in yugoslavs.
so far if i open any big wsite like eupedia i2din is regarded as paleo-balkanic and one fully european haplo,it did not come with slav,it could have been found spread throughout all the right half of Europe.

Only TA?


Lol.

It was proven that it's Slavic/ Not native to it's present area years ago like 2011 with Ken Nordtvedts research that found it's ancestral clade in Poland. The high frequency in West Balkans is the result of a founder effect.

[Kelmendasi]

Only TA?


Lol.

It was proven that it's Slavic/ Not native to it's present area years ago like 2011 with Ken Nordtvedts research that found it's ancestral clade in Poland. The high frequency in West Balkans is the result of a founder effect.

Not only that but Eupedia which used to claim that I2a-Din is native now says that it's Slavic