FTDNA - MyOrigins update

[Longbowman]

did you try my heritage ?
if you do can you share your results in the forum
regards
adam

p.s
they{ ftdna my origins 2.0} notice your sefhardi
and also my sefhardi

maybe they read her german as eastern european and also west central euro

12.5% vs 28% and even then they should not have done. They're terribly inaccurate.

My MyHeritage is amusing too.

Europe
94.6%
Ashkenazi Jewish
84.6% about correct
North and West Europe
10.0% lol wut
Irish, Scottish, and Welsh
10.0% but no English?
Middle East
3.7% okay...
Middle East
3.7%
Middle Eastern
3.7%
Africa
0.9%
North Africa
0.9%
Sephardic Jewish - North African
0.9% I mean yes kind of but we're missing a lot of percentage points here, same for middle east
America
0.8%
South America
0.8%
Indigenous Amazonian
0.8% trololol

[Peterski]

maybe they read her german as eastern european and also west central euro

I think that after this recent update, FTDNA's Eastern European cluster includes Austria and parts of Germany. Just like their map shows (EE cluster covers roughly 1/3 of Germany).

[Longbowman]

I think that after this recent update, FTDNA's Eastern European cluster includes Austria and parts of Germany. Just like their map shows (EE cluster covers roughly 1/3 of Germany).

Even if true she's 1/8 South Tyrolean and they're giving her 28% Eastern European.

[kingjohn]

I think that after this recent update, FTDNA's Eastern European cluster includes Austria and parts of Germany. Just like their map shows (EE cluster covers roughly 1/3 of Germany).

yes there eastern european probably includes also eastern germany as you said
and maybe eastern austria
there were many west slavic tribes who were assimilated
in those areas so no surprise ....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._Slavic_tribes
there was even slavic tribe in berlin area https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprevane

[Longbowman]

yes there eastern european probably includes also eastern germany as you said
and maybe eastern austria
there were many west slavic tribes who were assimilated
in those areas so no surprise ....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._Slavic_tribes
there was even slavic tribe in berlin area https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprevane

If this were true, why even have a German reference population? which they do, so, clearly it's not working.

[kingjohn]

most of the chances they used south west germans swiss and eastern french for the west central european cluster
this the seed of amalek lol
my brother socre 8% and me nada 0%

p.s
eastern germans and south west germans share the same flag
but i am sure there are genetic differences

[Longbowman]

3 points:

1) Germans aren't defined genetically, rather the genetics must conform to the ethnicity. If FTDNA is refusing to acknowledge Bavarians and Austrians as Germans, that's absurd. However, it is also very unlikely that they would do such a thing deliberately, leading me to conclude that they are, in fact, shit.
2) 28% is too high anyhow, much too high, and other scores are much too low, etc.
3) In what universe is the South Tyrol Eastern European? That reference population is mainly Polish.

FTDNA is shit, let's not waste breath defending it. Anyhow, what do you have that would give you 8% West Euro?

[Jana]

FTDNA is rubbish compared to other major companies. For example, my girlfriend's 23andme pretty accurately represented her (1/4 British, 1/8 German (South Tyrol), 1/8 Italian, 1/2 Chinese). FTDNA gives her 40% SE Asia, 10% NE Asia, 28% Eastern Europe (?), 15% West Euro, only 6% British, trace Scando and SE Euro.

It's just an anecdote but we all know dozens of similarly barmy results.

Longbowman, your girlfriend is 1/8 Italian from Istria and you showed her 23andme show Balkan and not Italian at all (and Croatian samples were included in 23and me Balkan cathegory).
I am very certain her ancestors were one of many Italianized Croats (it was very usual practice) due to their cultural domination. I have seen numeorus R1a (Slavic clades) and I2-dinaric Italians from Istria, who are genetically Croatian (or Slovenian)

Croats score very high eastern Europe on FTDNA and certanly this admixture to your girlfriends comes from Istrian side, perhaps not all as she is only 1/8, but at least half of it. Can't say about the rest.
Even today Istria is full with Italianized Slavic family names.

[Longbowman]

Longbowman, your girlfriend is 1/8 Italian from Istria and you showed her 23andme show Balkan and not Italian at all (and Croatian samples were included in 23and me Balkan cathegory).
I am very certain her ancestors were one of many Italianized Croats (it was very usual practice) due to their cultural domination. I have seen numeorus R1a (Slavic clades) and I2-dinaric Italians from Istria, who are genetically Croatian (or Slovenian)

Croats score very high eastern Europe on FTDNA and certanly this admixture to your girlfriends comes from Istrian side, perhaps not all as she is only 1/8, but at least half of it. Can't say about the rest.
Even today Istria is full with Italianized Slavic family names.

You're probably correct, or perhaps rather, the Italians of Istria were never really Italian but rather Romanised Illyrians.

[Peterski]

Have you tried various Eurogenes K36 tools, such as this one?:

http://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/similitude2.htm