The Genomic History Of Southeastern Europe

[Dick]

We don't know the reasons. Southeastern Europe is seriously under sampled area and that shouldn't be the case. For example in case of Bosnia there are many Illyrian sites from where DNA can be extracted and we can finally know the truth.
But maybe it is matter of money for all these countries.

I thought litvin ran his dna through his k36 ancient calc. ask him.

[Jana]

I thought litvin ran his dna through his k36 ancient calc. ask him.

Which sample you mean ?

[Dick]

Which sample you mean ?

Teh illirjan that you're talking about

[Fustan]

I hope this shuts down especially the Bosniaks here with massive identity krisis who think I2a is I2allyrian.

[Dick]

I hope this shuts down especially the Bosniaks here with massive identity krisis who think I2a is I2allyrian.

Bosniaks built pyramids.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Bosniaks built pyramids.

They are our white version of we wuz building pyrimidz and sheit.

[Dick]

They are our white version of we wuz building pyrimidz and sheit.

[Lucas]

I re-uploaded two neolithic genomes from Greece http://www.open-genomes.org/genomes/Hofmanova%20(2016)/

Z394045 Rev5 Revenia, Central Greece 6438–6264 BCE

Puntdnal K13
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SW_Europe 60
2 SW_Asia 16.14
3 West_Asia 7.65
4 NE_Europe 6.8
5 West_Africa 5.77
6 NE_Asia 1.6
7 Oceania 1.58
8 SE_Asia 0.23
9 South_Africa 0.22

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Italian_Sicilian 26.81
2 Italian_Abruzzo 27.39
3 Sephardic_Jew 27.8
4 Ashkenazy_Jew 28.25
5 Italian_Bergamo 29.01
6 Italian_Tuscan 29.05
7 Mozabite 29.19
8 Tunisian 29.57
9 Spaniard 29.95
10 Algerian 30.41
11 Puerto_Rican 30.98
12 French_Basque 31.06
13 Albanian 31.09
14 Greek_Central 31.18
15 Greek_Thessaly 31.18
16 Moroccan 31.54
17 Saharawi 31.94
18 Kosovar 32.28
19 Cypriot 33.31
20 Macedonian 35.43

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.6% Mozabite + 47.4% French_Basque @ 18.98
2 50.6% French_Basque + 49.4% Moroccan @ 19.98
3 51.2% French_Basque + 48.8% Saharawi @ 20.44
4 52.3% Tunisian + 47.7% French_Basque @ 20.56
5 51% Algerian + 49% French_Basque @ 20.58
6 50.3% Italian_Bergamo + 49.7% Mozabite @ 21.2
7 51.3% Mozabite + 48.7% Spaniard @ 21.26
8 61.4% French_Basque + 38.6% Egyptian_Copts @ 22.1
9 61.2% French_Basque + 38.8% Samaritan_Jew @ 22.14
10 50.3% Italian_Tuscan + 49.7% Mozabite @ 22.39
11 55.3% Italian_Bergamo + 44.7% Saharawi @ 22.47
12 54.4% Italian_Abruzzo + 45.6% Mozabite @ 22.61
13 61.8% French_Basque + 38.2% Egyptian @ 22.62
14 52.8% Spaniard + 47.2% Moroccan @ 22.66
15 53.5% Spaniard + 46.5% Saharawi @ 22.67
16 53.5% French_Basque + 46.5% Cypriot @ 22.74
17 54.9% Italian_Bergamo + 45.1% Moroccan @ 22.93
18 50.9% Spaniard + 49.1% Algerian @ 23.02
19 57.3% Sephardic_Jew + 42.7% French_Basque @ 23.06
20 50.8% Tunisian + 49.2% Spaniard @ 23.12


Eurogenes K15

Kit Z394045

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Med 38.76
2 East_Med 28.79
3 Atlantic 20.76
4 Red_Sea 5.68
5 Sub-Saharan 4.88
6 Oceanian 1.13

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Sardinian 15.45
2 Algerian_Jewish 23.16
3 West_Sicilian 23.9
4 Mozabite_Berber 24.44
5 Tunisian 24.55
6 Italian_Jewish 25.07
7 Tuscan 25.18
8 South_Italian 25.55
9 Moroccan 25.71
10 Algerian 25.79
11 Sephardic_Jewish 25.94
12 North_Italian 26.54
13 East_Sicilian 26.6
14 Spanish_Andalucia 27.54
15 Central_Greek 27.54
16 Tunisian_Jewish 27.66
17 Italian_Abruzzo 27.7
18 Greek 27.89
19 Ashkenazi 28.89
20 Libyan_Jewish 28.92

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.8% Sardinian + 21.2% Yemenite_Jewish @ 9.13
2 65% Sardinian + 35% Tunisian @ 9.46
3 74.4% Sardinian + 25.6% Egyptian @ 9.5
4 75.3% Sardinian + 24.7% Palermianin @ 9.65
5 63.8% Sardinian + 36.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 9.83
6 68.5% Sardinian + 31.5% Tunisian_Jewish @ 9.86
7 74.3% Sardinian + 25.7% Samaritan @ 10.01
8 76.9% Sardinian + 23.1% Lebanese_Druze @ 10.02
9 75.8% Sardinian + 24.2% Jordanian @ 10.09
10 75.9% Sardinian + 24.1% Lebanese_Christian @ 10.18

[Lucas]

Z732775 Kleitos 10 (late neolithic Greece)


Puntdnal K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SW_Europe 58.98
2 SW_Asia 16.83
3 West_Asia 16.12
4 NE_Europe 4.74
5 West_Africa 1.65
6 NE_Asia 0.68
7 Oceania 0.46
8 South_Africa 0.37
9 SE_Asia 0.17

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Italian_Sicilian 22.48
2 Sephardic_Jew 23.01
3 Ashkenazy_Jew 24.01
4 Italian_Abruzzo 24.07
5 Cypriot 26.8
6 Italian_Tuscan 27.53
7 Greek_Central 27.73
8 Italian_Bergamo 28.86
9 Greek_Thessaly 28.97
10 Albanian 29.15
11 Tunisian 29.83
12 Kosovar 30.31
13 Spaniard 31.44
14 Mozabite 31.67
15 Algerian 31.72
16 Moroccan 32.5
17 Lebanese_Christian 32.75
18 Puerto_Rican 33.48
19 French_Basque 33.96
20 Syrian 33.98

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60.5% Cypriot + 39.5% French_Basque @ 19.89
2 51.2% French_Basque + 48.8% Samaritan_Jew @ 20
3 73.6% Sephardic_Jew + 26.4% French_Basque @ 20.92
4 75.6% Italian_Sicilian + 24.4% Mozabite @ 21.15
5 51.5% Lebanese_Christian + 48.5% French_Basque @ 21.43
6 79.8% Italian_Sicilian + 20.2% French_Basque @ 21.47
7 68.4% Italian_Abruzzo + 31.6% Mozabite @ 21.54
8 53.6% French_Basque + 46.4% Egyptian_Copts @ 21.57
9 81.2% Italian_Sicilian + 18.8% Saharawi @ 21.62
10 76.4% Sephardic_Jew + 23.6% Mozabite @ 21.89
11 70.3% Ashkenazy_Jew + 29.7% Mozabite @ 21.99
12 84% Italian_Sicilian + 16% Moroccan @ 22.01
13 50.2% French_Basque + 49.8% Jordanian @ 22.02
14 84.1% Italian_Sicilian + 15.9% Algerian @ 22.06
15 59.6% Cypriot + 40.4% Spaniard @ 22.08
16 50.2% French_Basque + 49.8% Lebanese_Druze @ 22.09
17 85.1% Italian_Sicilian + 14.9% Tunisian @ 22.21
18 51.2% French_Basque + 48.8% Lebanese_Muslim @ 22.21
19 73.8% Italian_Abruzzo + 26.2% Saharawi @ 22.23
20 79.2% Sephardic_Jew + 20.8% Spaniard @ 22.26

[Lucas]

Also for comparison - neolithic Anatolia on Gedmatch

Z892662 Barcin 31 (neolithic Anatolia)
Z155641 Barcin 8 (neolithic Anatolia)

Barcin 8 has even modern relatives