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    Oi the Destroyer, you do know that the oldest I2a-Din sample was found in Poland?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Destroyer View Post
    My point is still made, you took samples from Russia, Germany and Jordan and said the paper was about ancient pre-IE Balkan population.
    Still though, the samples that were from the Balkans had no I2a-Din
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    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    Oi the Destroyer, you do know that the oldest I2a-Din sample was found in Poland?
    And why does this have to mean anything? Why do you think we won't discover older samples in the Balkans? Balkan is extremely undersampled and unresearched region, our knowledge about it is very poor.
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    There is no such thing as a moderate Serb. Every Serb is a supporter of the Chetnik ideology to some degree. Some Serbs like Davai are openly chetniks, while others like rv12aval are cryptochetniks who hide behind Bratsvo I Jedinstvo and other such concepts. Yugoslav partisans believer in the chetnik ideology, but could not display it openly because otherwise they couldn't recruit naive Croats and Bosniaks, which were necessary for victory. We shouldn't make a difference between a Serb and a chetnik, the two are exactly the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Destroyer View Post
    And why does this have to mean anything? Why do you think we won't discover older samples in the Balkans? Balkan is extremely undersampled and unresearched region, our knowledge about it is very poor.
    . How do you think it arrived in Poland... migrating Illyrians?
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    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    . How do you think it arrived in Poland... migrating Illyrians?
    ancient bosnian pyramid technology for teleportation
    Using 2 populations approximation:
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Destroyer
    how come the age of I2a2 Din subclade exactly coincides with the age of Bosnian Pyramids?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    Oi the Destroyer, you do know that the oldest I2a-Din sample was found in Poland?
    Whoa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    . How do you think it arrived in Poland... migrating Illyrians?
    Why not? Running away from the Gothic and Hunnic invasions (who came East and West of Balkans, and South was Mediterranean Sea, so only way of fleeing was North towards then-Slavic lands. I'm not saying it surely happened, but don't dismiss it. The sample is from 10th century after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Destroyer View Post
    Why not? Running away from the Gothic and Hunnic invasions (who came East and West of Balkans, and South was Mediterranean Sea
    Why didn't you guys just fucking swim or take a ferry boat to Italy.

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