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    Quote Originally Posted by de Burgh II View Post
    Much obliged! :-P


    Population
    SOUTH_BALTIC 10.99
    EAST_EURO 7.99
    NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 26.56
    ATLANTIC 30.80
    WEST_MED 13.87
    EAST_MED 4.93
    WEST_ASIAN 4.13
    MIDDLE_EASTERN 0.13
    SOUTH_ASIAN 0.44
    EAST_AFRICAN -
    EAST_ASIAN -
    SIBERIAN 0.17
    WEST_AFRICAN -

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viriato View Post
    Population
    SOUTH_BALTIC 6.63
    EAST_EURO 6.87
    NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 18.25
    ATLANTIC 21.17
    WEST_MED 24.29
    EAST_MED 11.21
    WEST_ASIAN 3.29
    MIDDLE_EASTERN 5.88
    SOUTH_ASIAN -
    EAST_AFRICAN 2.21
    EAST_ASIAN 0.05
    SIBERIAN 0.15
    WEST_AFRICAN -

    Using the new V5 23andme chip, curious to see if there will be any difference.

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    Gracias. Not much difference so it seems.
    YDNA: R1b-L21 > DF13 > S1051 > FGC17906 > FGC17907 > FGC17866


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibericus View Post
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    Sometimes i wonder if EUtest is not better than even K15, almost perfectly between my parents here and my father is FTDNA rather than 23.

    Do you think you can add the mesolithic like Loschbour/Motala on the pca ? And maybe East Africa if it doesn't end up too far (W.Africa would def be too far) just to get a sense how the whole European cluster is formed in EUtest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibericus View Post
    Thanks. A wee bit astray. but nothing too drastic.
    The Irish Brigade's battle cry at Fontenoy, "Cuimhnigí ar Luimneach agus ar feall na Sasanaigh," translates to "Remember Limerick and the treachery of the English." After seeing the devastation caused by the Irish Brigade, the Duke of Cumberland reportedly remarked, "God curse the laws that made those men our enemies".


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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    Thanks. A wee bit astray. but nothing too drastic.
    What are your oracles on the Eutest ?

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    Good to see the Sicilians added on the permanent plot. Clearly SE Sicily differs from Messina/Palermo and drifts away from the more Levant shifted cluster and toward Greece proper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibericus View Post
    What are your oracles on the Eutest ?
    It's not really astray. I do come up on the cusp of Scandinavia and British Isles. Davidski (Eurogenes) said the same thing.

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 ATLANTIC 29.05
    2 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 28.74
    3 SOUTH_BALTIC 14.54
    4 EAST_EURO 11.64
    5 WEST_MED 8.13
    6 WEST_ASIAN 6.85
    7 EAST_MED 1.05

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Orcadian 3.19
    2 IE 3.78
    3 Scottish 4.07
    4 English 5.65
    5 NL 6.04
    6 DK 6.08
    7 Cornish 6.09
    8 NO 6.34
    9 West_&_Central_German 6.73
    10 South_&_Central_Swedish 7.01
    11 North_Swedish 10.75
    12 AT 13.82
    13 FR 14.7
    14 HU 18.52
    15 South_Finnish 19.56
    16 Serbian 21.37
    17 PT 22.12
    18 PL 22.12
    19 ES 22.35
    20 EE 24.12

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 68% Scottish + 32% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.7
    2 66.1% Scottish + 33.9% NO @ 2.85
    3 83.2% Orcadian + 16.8% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.92
    4 72.8% IE + 27.2% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.93
    5 83.7% Orcadian + 16.3% NO @ 3
    6 97.7% Orcadian + 2.3% Lezgin @ 3
    7 96% Orcadian + 4% EE @ 3.03
    8 96.8% Orcadian + 3.2% LIT @ 3.04
    9 92% Orcadian + 8% North_Swedish @ 3.06
    10 98.5% Orcadian + 1.5% GE @ 3.07
    11 97.2% Orcadian + 2.8% Belorussian @ 3.1
    12 72.1% IE + 27.9% NO @ 3.11
    13 97.6% Orcadian + 2.4% Northwest_Russian @ 3.11
    14 96.9% Orcadian + 3.1% PL @ 3.11
    15 97.2% Orcadian + 2.8% East_Finnish @ 3.11
    16 97.3% Orcadian + 2.7% West_Russian @ 3.12
    17 96.7% Orcadian + 3.3% South_Finnish @ 3.12
    18 97.5% Orcadian + 2.5% UA @ 3.13
    19 97.7% Orcadian + 2.3% Ukrainian-Russian @ 3.13
    20 98% Orcadian + 2% Erzya @ 3.13

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Orcadian +50% Orcadian @ 3.586883


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% IE +25% Scottish +25% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.138446


    Using 4 populations approximation:
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    1 IE + Scottish + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.093390
    2 Orcadian + Scottish + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.097898
    3 IE + Orcadian + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.126189
    4 IE + IE + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.138446
    5 Orcadian + Orcadian + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.172408
    6 Scottish + Scottish + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.184580
    7 NO + Orcadian + Scottish + Scottish @ 3.242635
    8 IE + IE + Orcadian + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.273401
    9 NO + Orcadian + Orcadian + Scottish @ 3.274760
    10 IE + NO + Orcadian + Scottish @ 3.277389
    11 IE + NO + Scottish + Scottish @ 3.286388
    12 IE + IE + IE + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.298187
    13 IE + Orcadian + Orcadian + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.313722
    14 IE + IE + NO + Scottish @ 3.334099
    15 NO + Scottish + Scottish + Scottish @ 3.356885
    16 English + Scottish + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.367349
    17 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.401448
    18 IE + NO + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 3.418174
    19 IE + IE + NO + Orcadian @ 3.420750
    20 NO + Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 3.460329
    The Irish Brigade's battle cry at Fontenoy, "Cuimhnigí ar Luimneach agus ar feall na Sasanaigh," translates to "Remember Limerick and the treachery of the English." After seeing the devastation caused by the Irish Brigade, the Duke of Cumberland reportedly remarked, "God curse the laws that made those men our enemies".


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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    It's not really astray. I do come up on the cusp of Scandinavia and British Isles. Davidski (Eurogenes) said the same thing.
    it's obvious all the plumbers want to be accepted as streamline euro(no Asian,Mena etc admixture) or even north euro, so Poland next to Sweden is a bit ludicrous for example, but Davidski just cherry picks the samples he uses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
    it's obvious all the plumbers want to be accepted as streamline euro(no Asian,Mena etc admixture) or even north euro, so Poland next to Sweden is a bit ludicrous for example, but Davidski just cherry picks the samples he uses.
    There are a lot of other people that do the runs. Have you looked on Anthrogenica?
    The Irish Brigade's battle cry at Fontenoy, "Cuimhnigí ar Luimneach agus ar feall na Sasanaigh," translates to "Remember Limerick and the treachery of the English." After seeing the devastation caused by the Irish Brigade, the Duke of Cumberland reportedly remarked, "God curse the laws that made those men our enemies".


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