Eurogenes Biogeographic Ancestry Project

**Pallantides** · 07-06-2011, 01:22 PM

**Frederick** · 07-06-2011, 01:22 PM

I would like to know how people look like, who get those 97%+ matches for the aDNA archetypes.

**Frederick** · 07-06-2011, 01:25 PM

@Agrippa

Havnt you tested your DNA already? Or too much fear that it could claim you an Arab?

**Agrippa** · 07-06-2011, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by Frederick

@Agrippa

Havnt you tested your DNA already? Or too much fear that it could claim you an Arab?

Whether I've done it or not, I think such things are a privacy issue. You have to decide for yourself which data you give to other people.

**Trog** · 07-06-2011, 01:46 PM

There's a dark influence running through my family and it's been speculated as being many things. Even I personally disclosed to someone that I secretly suspected some East Asian lurking in the wood pile based on our traits. When all along it's simply been evidence of what the most ancient British population looked like.

**Trog** · 07-06-2011, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by Agrippa

The distribution of Northern European vs. North Atlantic in some people makes little sense, even in some from the same population.

I just wonder how the program keeps such obviously very closely related components apart in detail...

I think it makes sense to have a distinction between, say Irish and populations like Swedes. Indeed, it seems obvious to expect differences between both populations.

**Frederick** · 07-06-2011, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by Agrippa

Whether I've done it or not, I think such things are a privacy issue. You have to decide for yourself which data you give to other people.

Well, you seem to have one typical German trait running your venes: German Angst.

Germans are the most fearfull people on the planet.

Problem is, they try to kill whatever makes them afraid.

**Agrippa** · 07-06-2011, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by Frederick

But even thorugh all the problems... I still trust more into DNA technology than into phenotyping.

Phenotyping bases on maybe 0.1% of the DNA/anchestry of a man. If at all.

Obviously the goal is unite these two approaches and one thing is for sure, in real life, the phenotype and the genetic factors behind it are crucial, not neutral genetic variation, which is interesting for geneaology and certain scientific questions, but not the real people.

I mean if you have genes which make you look alike in a group, more attractive, make you physically superiour or more intelligent and the like, this matters most.

And the genotype issue is also insofar problematic, as there were selection and chance involved in forming phenotypes - but selection being based on traits of phenotypical relevance, not variation by chance.

Anyway, we are coming closer and closer to bringing the genotype-phenotype issue to an end - once more and more genetic variants of phenotypical importance being detected.

**Frederick** · 07-06-2011, 02:07 PM

in real life, the phenotype and the genetic factors behind it are crucial

Uttery nonsense.
If this ancient nonsense is really what people here believe, this is no place for ME.

good bye

**Pallantides** · 07-06-2011, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by Agrippa

Whether I've done it or not, I think such things are a privacy issue. You have to decide for yourself which data you give to other people.

Now you sound like some of the Saami on 23andMe

I had a Saami relative stop sharing with me because I revealed only his ancestry painting on a forum. Guess I shouldn't expect others to be as open as me with my results.(these days I ask premission before posting others ancestry information)

Originally Posted by Frederick

Uttery nonsense.
If this ancient nonsense is really what people here believe, this is no place for ME.

good bye

There is room for more than one opinion here.