Eurogenes Biogeographic Ancestry Project

[Rochefaton]

Here is your chart, Pallantides:



Your closest 5 are:

Norway:4.14
Scotland: 6.56
Ireland: 7.01
Wales: 7.98
Germany: 8.72

[Loki]

Here is your chart, Loki:



Your closest 5 populations are:

Switzerland: 2.42
Netherlands: 3.98
Austria: 4.40
Hungary: 5.25
France: 6.14

Does that seem about right to you?

Absolutely Thanks

[Sikeliot]

I want to see the chart for a Portuguese or Spanish person.. anyone have an example of one?

[Pallantides]

Here is your chart, Pallantides:



Your closest 5 are:

Norway:4.14
Scotland: 6.56
Ireland: 7.01
Wales: 7.98
Germany: 8.72

Thank you.

Maybe I should change my identity to Norse-Gael.

[Rochefaton]

I want to see the chart for a Portuguese or Spanish person.. anyone have an example of one?

Well, it is your lucky day then.

Kadu, here is your chart:



Your closest 5 are:

Spain: 2.21
Portugal: 2.98
N. Italy: 5.08
France: 5.57
Switzerland: 6.24

Ok, this thing is accurate. No more requests after this post. I'll upload the spreadsheet shortly, and then you all can checkout the results of whoever you wish.

[Rochefaton]

Your voice did not go unheard, Federick! Here is your chart:



Your closest 5 are:

Hungry: 3.84
Serbia: 5.29
Switzerland: 6.98
Ukraine: 7.02
Netherlands: 7.06

Germany edges out Sweden for 6th place with 7.43. That's the last one. The spreadsheet is next.

I'm a little behind on my planned schedule, but bear with me, folks. Photobucket has not been playing nice with me.

[Rochefaton]

Hey, guys, on second thought, I'm going to recheck my calculations before going any further. Although everyone seems to be falling into groups that seem realistic, some of the values (particularly mine) seem a bit low.

Also, Pallantides, I somehow posted my chart instead of yours. I will fix that for you at a later time. *face palms self* Meh, I blame it on the Photobucket fiasco.

[Agrippa]

Here is another of those maps, this time by a German Anthropologican of the 1930:
(Note, how on GERMAN maps, the Germans claim themself "Nordic", at least in Northern Germany. While English anthropolgicans claim them Borreby or Faelic.

But identically to his English comrade, he claims North-Western Africa to be the same phenotype as southwestern Europe...

Didnt they travel around in those 1930?

Some of those maps being made after the basic trait combinations, so f.e. tall+longheaded+light = Nordic, probably adding (if being more accurate) narrow face and nose, leptomorphic-rangy build.

The same goes for "Atlanto-Mediterranean" just with "dark".

That's why they found Atlantomediterranids and Nordoids in North Africa, as well as Alpinoids. Essentially, these variants are indeed present there, in a local-regional form and often as the result of mixture (especially the Nordoids as the result of longer term mixture between light Berberid and Atlanto-like variants), but their frequency is much lower in comparison to other regional-specific Mediterranid and Cromagnoid variants.

Also, they noted Orientalid (Arabid) and Negroid (mostly Sudanid) influences, which of course further change the populations in question.

They were just more lax then with their definitions quite often and if looking at what they described in detail, it is more accurate most of the time.

As for the traveling, just to mention it, v. Eickstedt made no big deal about the Northern Near East and in most maps, he colored the Western part just Armenid (Anatolia to Western Iran), based on what others wrote about that part of the world.

When he finally, after being virtually everywhere else before, made a scientific journey into the area, he immediately corrected his false ideas from before, further distinguishing the Armenoid spectrum with the Anadolid type and noting the many Mediterranid and East-/Asian-Alpinoid influences, as well as the Iranid racial type.

It was as pity he died too early, but this might serve as an example, as he was a great typologist and usually, when he was wrong, there was an acceptable reason for that.

[Frederick]

lets not fill this thread with off topic stuff.

This is about Eurogenes admixture analysis of aDNA and not NAZI voodoo magic.

[Libertas]

lets not fill this thread with off topic stuff.

This is about Eurogenes admixture analysis of aDNA and not NAZI voodoo magic.

I for one am none too trusting of these recent amateur (and professional) genetic studies which seem to claim that a dozen or two dozen often self-reporting individuals truly represent populations running into millions of people.