Eurogenes Biogeographic Ancestry Project

[Electronic God-Man]

Hmmm....let's see here...If I had to guess I would say you're....Celto-Germanic leaning more towards Germanic?

Well, yes. About 50% English, 20-25% Southwestern German/Swiss-German, 12.5% Irish, 12.5% Lithuanian.

These charts are pretty amazing. I wonder why on the EU7b chart I have a closer affinity to Germany than the UK. NEU6 has me closest to the Netherlands (even Denmark is closer on that one than UK). Perhaps NEU5e is closest just based on the fact that I come in closest to the UK on that one.

...could it be the Lithuanian skewing it?

[Rochefaton]

Well, yes. About 50% English, 20-25% Southwestern German/Swiss-German, 12.5% Irish, 12.5% Lithuanian.

These charts are pretty amazing. I wonder why on the EU7b chart I have a closer affinity to Germany than the UK. NEU6 has me closest to the Netherlands (even Denmark is closer on that one than UK). Perhaps NEU5e is closest just based on the fact that I come in closest to the UK on that one.

...could it be the Lithuanian skewing it?

Yes, your S.E. Baltic score of 10.97% compared to the British average of 2.60% is probably what is putting you with ze Germans. It is hard to be certain if your Lithuanian ancestry is responsible for your S.E. Baltic score being higher than the US average of 6.23% since you have German ancestry and they average 15.73%.

However, since your German ancestry is from the Southwest and not the North or East, it very well could be due to the Lithuanian ancestry.

[Barreldriver]

NEU5e again not as accurate as EU7b for me as it places Ireland as first instead of the UK.

1. Ireland 9.34
2. UK 12.55
3. France 15.92
4. Germany 16.62
5. Netherlands 17.79

The NEU5e run is the makes the least sense of the three in the context of my genealogy, as for now EU7b will be my primary reference for other family members of mine own who are interested in genealogy since the EU7b results match the pedigree to a letter.

[Rochefaton]

I finished the spreadsheet for the Neolithic Belt run and will upload it tomorrow night. I made a chart for Transhumanist and the average Assyrian to see what the results were, and here they are:





It seems your results were more similar to the Armenian samples than to your fellow Assyrians' results. No surprise that Caucasian and Mesopotamian populations are your closest groups.

You do have some Armenian ancestry, though, correct?

[Transhumanist]

I finished the spreadsheet for the Neolithic Belt run and will upload it tomorrow night. I made a chart for Transhumanist and the average Assyrian to see what the results were, and here they are:





It seems your results were more similar to the Armenian samples than to your fellow Assyrians' results. No surprise that Caucasian and Mesopotamian populations are your closest groups.

You do have some Armenian ancestry, though, correct?

Thanks very much, mate. I sincerely appreciate all the hard work.

Actually, despite my ~6% Armenian ancestry, I am ordinarily the least Armenian of the Assyrian lot. But, yeah, it is difficult to distinguish between Armenians and Assyrians in some of these analyses. Dienekes even made it a special project of his a few months back.

[Imperivm]

Impervim's results from the EU7b run looked odd, so I ran his numbers from the NEU6g run, and like Pallantides, his NEU6g results appear to be more accurate considering his ethnicity.

Cheers mate. Why am I so close to the Irish but quite distant from the Spanish? Also, what does this make me? A typical Celto-Germanic Englishman?

[Transhumanist]

It seems your results were more similar to the Armenian samples than to your fellow Assyrians' results. No surprise that Caucasian and Mesopotamian populations are your closest groups.

Here are the individual results for the Assyrians, sorted in descending order by the "Middle East" component. I think I know why Armenians (and other populations?) are closer to me than the Assyrian population. There are Eastern (me) and Western Assyrians. You can spot the Western Assyrians in this run by the "North African" component. Only two of the Eastern Assyrians have a bit. While all three of the Western Assyrians have a bit of the "North African" component. This is perfectly reasonable, as the Western Assyrians are geographically closer to the Levant.

Assyrians sorted in descending order by "Middle East," with my scores in red bold, based on values from the Neolithic Belt and surrounds:

	E_Euras	EuAnato	Nafrica	Sasian	MidEast	WCAfric	Eafrica	Wafrica
ASY7	0.45%	37.46%	0.92%	9.72%	51.45%	0.00%	0.00%	0.00%
ASY14	0.00%	41.64%	0.42%	6.50%	51.43%	0.00%	0.00%	0.00%
Hum	0.00%	37.54%	0.00%	11.34%	51.11%	0.00%	0.00%	0.00%
ASY9	0.00%	40.65%	0.00%	9.98%	49.37%	0.00%	0.00%	0.00%
ASY8	0.00%	40.09%	0.00%	11.30%	48.60%	0.00%	0.00%	0.00%
ASY10	0.00%	40.89%	0.00%	10.74%	48.36%	0.00%	0.00%	0.00%
ASY5	0.53%	38.44%	0.63%	12.06%	48.32%	0.00%	0.00%	0.00%
ASY2	0.56%	43.23%	2.16%	7.65%	46.39%	0.00%	0.00%	0.00%
ASY11	0.00%	43.71%	1.14%	9.77%	45.38%	0.00%	0.00%	0.00%

In this run, I registered more of the "Middle East" than the average Yemeni! Polako did a good job isolating, it would appear, a non-Afro "Middle East" component. At the very least, a reduced Afro "Middle East" component. As I mentioned to Polako at the time, it is not that I have anything against African components, but, our (Assyrian) relative lack of African admixture ordinarily leads to less of the "Middle East" or comparable component in ADMIXTURE runs.

Neolithic Belt and surrounds average K8 values for many populations (and some individuals) in the neighborhood of the Mid East, in descending order by the "Middle East" component.

                E_Euras	EuAnato	Nafrica	Sasian	MidEast	WCAfric	Eafrica	Wafrica

1	KSA	1%	9%	16%	4%	68%	0%	2%	0%
2	SIQ	1%	13%	12%	5%	63%	5%	1%	0%
3	PAL	1%	24%	11%	3%	55%	1%	3%	2%
4	YEM	2%	16%	12%	8%	50%	4%	7%	2%

5	ASY	0%	40%	1%	10%	49%	0%	0%	0%
6	JOR	1%	30%	10%	6%	47%	1%	3%	1%
7	SYR	1%	34%	6%	8%	46%	1%	2%	1%
8	NCIQ	2%	36%	2%	14%	45%	2%	0%	0%
9	LEB	2%	36%	7%	7%	44%	1%	3%	1%

10	ARM	0%	45%	0%	11%	43%	0%	0%	0%
11	EGY	1%	22%	19%	1%	43%	2%	8%	3%
12	CYP	0%	52%	5%	3%	40%	0%	0%	0%
13	IRN	1%	34%	1%	22%	39%	1%	1%	0%
14	GEO	0%	49%	0%	13%	38%	0%	0%	0%
15	ER1	1%	0%	15%	0%	37%	0%	47%	0%
16	LIB	1%	16%	35%	1%	33%	3%	7%	4%
17	TRK	5%	50%	1%	12%	32%	0%	0%	0%
18	ETH	1%	0%	16%	0%	31%	1%	50%	0%
19	SEJ	1%	55%	10%	2%	31%	0%	0%	0%
20	ASJ	2%	60%	7%	2%	29%	0%	0%	0%
21	GRK	1%	71%	3%	2%	23%	0%	0%	0%
22	PKEG1	1%	18%	2%	58%	20%	0%	1%	2%
23	ALG	1%	19%	47%	1%	17%	3%	4%	7%
24	MOR	1%	17%	53%	1%	10%	4%	3%	11%
25	PJT	2%	26%	0%	63%	9%	0%	0%	0%
26	UZB	36%	34%	0%	22%	8%	0%	0%	0%
27	PK1	5%	20%	1%	67%	7%	0%	0%	0%
28	IND	7%	8%	1%	79%	5%	0%	0%	0%
29	MOZ	0%	7%	75%	4%	3%	6%	1%	4%
30	KZ1	53%	31%	0%	13%	3%	0%	0%	0%
31	GUJ	2%	5%	1%	91%	1%	0%	0%	0%

SIQ=IQ2
NCIQ=Central (Baghdadi) Iraqi and N Iraqi/Balkar

[Rochefaton]

Here is a link to the Neolithic Belt calculator for those interested. Remember to use OpenOffice.

[Rochefaton]

Cheers mate. Why am I so close to the Irish but quite distant from the Spanish? Also, what does this make me? A typical Celto-Germanic Englishman?

Because the Spanish and Irish are not nearly as related on an autosomal level as Y-DNA would lead people to believe. Your South/Western score is the highest out of the Brit samples and almost double the British average, but it is still only a little over half the Spanish average.

Also, your North/Central score of 34.6% is close to the Irish average of 36.8%. The Spanish average is 3.5%; big difference. That is why you are close to the Irish, but distant from the Spanish.

[Boudica]

Well, yes. About 50% English, 20-25% Southwestern German/Swiss-German, 12.5% Irish, 12.5% Lithuanian.

These charts are pretty amazing. I wonder why on the EU7b chart I have a closer affinity to Germany than the UK. NEU6 has me closest to the Netherlands (even Denmark is closer on that one than UK). Perhaps NEU5e is closest just based on the fact that I come in closest to the UK on that one.

...could it be the Lithuanian skewing it?

Wait, where/how do you get a chart like you just described? From Eurogenes?