Was Haplogroup R originally mongoloid?

**Proto-Shaman** · 10-30-2017, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by Sundqvist

Q&R brotherhood

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnetou

without Turks they can't even flirt on scientific level

**Vlatko Vukovic** · 10-30-2017, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by Kipchak Håkan

without Turks they can't even flirt on scientific level

who?

**Proto-Shaman** · 10-30-2017, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic

But point is that R1a-M458 was not represented in Hunnic people

Balkar M458 is ancestral to all M458's

**Proto-Shaman** · 10-30-2017, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic

who?

Europoids and Amerindians.

**Turul Karom** · 10-30-2017, 03:58 PM

Any data on R1b in both modern Hungarians and proto-steppe Hungarians? I have seen a few things but always like to collect more facts.

**Vlatko Vukovic** · 10-30-2017, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by Kipchak Håkan

Europoids and Amerindians.

I think that Western Europe didn't have Turkic influence in creating a civilisation.

**Vlatko Vukovic** · 10-30-2017, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by Kipchak Håkan

Balkar M458 is ancestral to all M458's

Do you have some real proof. Not some your pages, but some normal?

Sorry, that means that ancestors of Poles was some Turkic-speaking people (Balkars), so i can't agree with you.

Ülev · 10-30-2017, 04:44 PM

yeah, those Balkars from Kabardino-Balkaria, Krasnodar Krai etc... Stavropol - Staro-polska - Old-Poland ---> this is from where R1ethelites came lately
and named Elbe river ---> Laba like in their old homeland ---> https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9B%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%B0 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laba_River

**Vlatko Vukovic** · 10-30-2017, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by Sundqvist

yeah, those Balkars from Kabardino-Balkaria, Krasnodar Krai etc... Stavropol - Staro-polska - Old-Poland ---> this is from where R1ethelites came lately
and named Elbe river ---> Laba like in their old homeland ---> https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9B%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%B0 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laba_River

LOL that have no sense.

that mean that ancestors of Poles spoke Balkar (Turkic) language.

This theories have no sesne really.

Ülev · 10-30-2017, 05:02 PM

I2a1 taught M458 IE language (Slavic) like I1 did with R1b (Germanic), J2 gave Latin language to R1b(and a) people

almost only R1b - Basque language, Ergative–absolutive language, the same as in Georgia or Avar language ---> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergati...utive_language

THE STORY OF TWO NORTHWARD MIGRATIONS - ORIGINS OF FINNO - PERMIC AND BALTO - SLAVIC LANGUAGES IN NORTHEAST EUROPE, BASED ON HUMAN Y - CHROMOSOME HAPLOGROUPS
http://eujournal.org/index.php/esj/a...File/4182/4018

R1a M558 was agglutinative permian language

half of Africa speak english, but only speak, they are not owners of this language