Was Haplogroup R originally mongoloid?

[Vlatko Vukovic]

I2a1 taught M458 IE language (Slavic) like I1 did with R1b (Germanic), J2 gave Latin language to R1b(and a) people

almost only R1b - Basque language, Ergative–absolutive language, the same as in Georgia or Avar language ---> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergati...utive_language


THE STORY OF TWO NORTHWARD MIGRATIONS - ORIGINS OF FINNO - PERMIC AND BALTO - SLAVIC LANGUAGES IN NORTHEAST EUROPE, BASED ON HUMAN Y - CHROMOSOME HAPLOGROUPS
http://eujournal.org/index.php/esj/a...File/4182/4018

R1a M558 was agglutinative permian language

half of Africa speak english, but only speak, they are not owners of this language

But you said that R1a M458 is of Balkar - turkic origin.

So then how is poosible that they speak Slavic language which is very different from turkics.

[Pahli]

Mal'ta sample:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE_Europe 49.96
2 Americas 17.77
3 South_Asia 16.09
4 West_Asia 9.77
5 Siberia 4.13
6 West_Africa 1.7
7 Oceania 0.58

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Aluet 23.97
2 Chuvash 29.25
3 Tatar 29.65
4 Mordovian 31.61
5 Russian 32.72
6 Finnish 34.14
7 Belarusian 35.49
8 Polish 35.53
9 Estonian 35.73
10 Latvian 35.81

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 77.8% Finnish + 22.2% Pima @ 19.87
2 78.5% Finnish + 21.5% Colombian @ 19.99
3 78.5% Finnish + 21.5% Karitiana @ 19.99
4 78.5% Finnish + 21.5% Surui @ 19.99
5 77.9% Finnish + 22.1% Mayan @ 20.01
6 81.8% Aluet + 18.2% UP_Muslim @ 20.13
7 83.5% Aluet + 16.5% Sakilli @ 20.25
8 83.8% Aluet + 16.2% Hakkipikki @ 20.32
9 80.9% Aluet + 19.1% Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin @ 20.33
10 83.7% Aluet + 16.3% North_Kannadi @ 20.37

Dominantly Caucasoid

[Stears]

It was mestizo. Certanly not white haplogroup originally.

[Pahli]

It was mestizo. Certanly not white haplogroup originally.

Mixed yes, but neither a purely Caucasoid or Mongoloid haplogroup

[Ülev]

Northern Caucasus, North Black Sea shore was the area of I2a1 back in the time, but those people were Rethelised and on the other hand were teach IE



Srubna-Sintashta was only a periodic stop-camp in Steppe-Mongol "Drang nach Western"
If IJ originated in Zagros Mountain, then it has to be their area, not
Malta-Boys from Irkutsk of R1 origin

In addition, living examples of the precursor Haplogroup IJ* have been found only in Iran, among the Mazandarani and ethnic Persians from Fars.[3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_I-M170

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Northern Caucasus, North Black Sea shore was the area of I2a1 back in the time, but those people were Rethelised and on the other hand were teach IE



Srubna-Sintashta was only a periodic stop-camp in Steppe-Mongol "Drang nach Western"
If IJ originated in Zagros Mountain, then it has to be their area, not
Malta-Boys from Irkutsk are of R1 origin


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_I-M170

What is blue and what is red in this map??

What is mentioning of this.

[Ülev]

noble Aryans are of IJ origin, period

[Ülev]

What is blue and what is red in this map??

What is mentioning of this.

Tocharians on wikipedia as indo-european people --> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tocharians, but picture does not lie





they were Genghis Khan'oids

Molecular Genealogy of a Mongol Queen’s Family and Her Possible Kinship with Genghis Khan

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5023095/

Members of the Mongol imperial family (designated the Golden family) are buried in a secret necropolis; therefore, none of their burial grounds have been found. In 2004, we first discovered 5 graves belonging to the Golden family in Tavan Tolgoi, Eastern Mongolia. To define the genealogy of the 5 bodies and the kinship among them, SNP and/or STR profiles of mitochondria, autosomes, and Y chromosomes were analyzed. Four of the 5 bodies were determined to carry the mitochondrial DNA haplogroup D4, while the fifth carried haplogroup CZ, indicating that this individual had no kinship with the others. Meanwhile, Y-SNP and Y-STR profiles indicate that the males examined belonged to the R1b-M343 haplogroup

a pic of those noble people from German version of Wikipedia - do you see that redish-white skin tone?:


https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongolen

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Tocharians on wikipedia as indo-european people --> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tocharians, but picture does not lie





they were Genghis Khan'oids

Is this known which haplogroup were they?

[Stears]

Is this known which haplogroup were they?

They were R1a.