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    Avestan "atraš" sound similar to croatian "vatra" but the hell nothing common with polish ogień (fire)

    Poles and others with R1a - Turkic
    South Slavs with I2a1 - Persian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kipchak Håkan View Post
    Klyosov from the same paper: "Те же языки, в своем развитии, составляли неИЕ языки древней Европы, которые от современных молодых тюркских, конечно, ушли уже очень далеко, и которые до сих пор составляют мощный «доИЕ субстрат» в европейских языках, в частности, в германских."

    Google Translate: "The same languages, in their development, were the non-IndoEuropean languages of ancient Europe, which of course from the modern young Turkic countries have already gone very far, and which still constitute a powerful "pre-IndoEuropean substratum" in European languages, in particular, in Germanic."

    look up: --> Chuvash-Germanic lexicon
    Yeah. But i think that he (as Russian person) is exaggerating about this Turko-Germanic relativities. I think that his speechs are not objective, but subjective (toward Germanic origin peoples).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sundqvist View Post
    Avestan "atraš" sound similar to croatian "vatra" but the hell nothing common with polish ogień (fire)

    Poles and others with R1a - Turkic
    South Slavs with I2a1 - Persian
    Still i don't think that R1a is Turkic haplogroup.

    I2a1 are Croats and Bosniaks mostly, Serbs are mostly R1a peope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sundqvist View Post

    Poles and others with R1a - Turkic
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    This. Thread can be closed. Everything important was said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sundqvist View Post
    Avestan "atraš" sound similar to croatian "vatra" but the hell nothing common with polish ogień (fire)

    Poles and others with R1a - Turkic
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    Btw. "Persian" and "Iranian" are not same origin. South Slavs are not Persians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic View Post
    Btw. "Persian" and "Iranian" are not same origin. South Slavs are not Persians.
    No they are not, population of Persia changed a lot. At some point in time it was populated by Greeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anatolian Stallion View Post
    This. Thread can be closed. Everything important was said.
    Sorry you have nothing with Odin, you are Tengri steppe Turk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic View Post
    Yeah. But i think that he (as Russian person) is exaggerating about this Turko-Germanic relativities. I think that his speechs are not objective, but subjective (toward Germanic origin peoples).
    it is in accordance with Carleton Coon's Altaic Corded Ware culture: https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-VII3.htm


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic View Post
    Sorry you have nothing with Odin, you are Tengri steppe Turk.
    No, he is a Middle Eastern looking sandnigger.

    And Avestan word for fire is "Atar" not "Atrash"

    Anyways, R1 comes from the EHG males that populated Russia prior to the Yamnaya culture

    I2 = Very first Europeans

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic View Post
    Sorry you have nothing with Odin, you are Tengri steppe Turk.
    Odin was an Asian Tyrk shaman:

    https://udfordringen.dk/2005/12/odin...iatisk-shaman/


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