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Thread: Was Haplogroup R originally mongoloid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kipchak Håkan View Post
    In wich time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic View Post
    In wich time?
    1st millennium BC


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kipchak Håkan View Post
    1st millennium BC
    If he was OK. At least Perun was not ))

    But again this Anatolian Stallion has nothing to do with this Asian Shamanist Odin.

    Anatolian Stallion looks like middle-eastern not like a real Central Asian Turk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anatolian Stallion View Post
    This. Thread can be closed. Everything important was said.
    Kurds are high in I2a, too.



    a few weeks ago I had a conversation about haplogroup I with another Slavic guy: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...01#post4644801

    Ancestors of I2 originated in Eastern Mediterranean area, later they moved to Europe.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplog...toric_presence

    [QUOTE]Basal I2* (I-M438*) has been found in ancient remains from Frankthi cave, in the eastern Peloponnese region of Greece. Along with its modern presence in Crete and Sicily, this may suggest that the haplogroup originated in the Eastern Mediterranean.

    Just wanted to remind: basal I* and IJ* is only found in the Caucasus and Iran. I in general originated from the same area. Highest frequency of I in the near East is found among Kurds:

    Zaza Kurds:



    Kurmandji Kurds:


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    [QUOTE=Kipchak Håkan;4743074]Kurds are high in I2a, too.



    a few weeks ago I had a conversation about haplogroup I with another Slavic guy: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...01#post4644801

    Ancestors of I2 originated in Eastern Mediterranean area, later they moved to Europe.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplog...toric_presence

    Basal I2* (I-M438*) has been found in ancient remains from Frankthi cave, in the eastern Peloponnese region of Greece. Along with its modern presence in Crete and Sicily, this may suggest that the haplogroup originated in the Eastern Mediterranean.

    Just wanted to remind: basal I* and IJ* is only found in the Caucasus and Iran. I in general originated from the same area. Highest frequency of I in the near East is found among Kurds:

    Zaza Kurds:



    Kurmandji Kurds:
    There are no relativities between Slavs and Kurds in fact, on any base. Old Horvathi and Sorbi are not connected with Kurds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kipchak Håkan View Post
    Kurds are high in I2a, too.



    a few weeks ago I had a conversation about haplogroup I with another Slavic guy: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...01#post4644801

    Ancestors of I2 originated in Eastern Mediterranean area, later they moved to Europe.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplog...toric_presence

    Basal I2* (I-M438*) has been found in ancient remains from Frankthi cave, in the eastern Peloponnese region of Greece. Along with its modern presence in Crete and Sicily, this may suggest that the haplogroup originated in the Eastern Mediterranean.

    Just wanted to remind: basal I* and IJ* is only found in the Caucasus and Iran. I in general originated from the same area. Highest frequency of I in the near East is found among Kurds:

    Zaza Kurds:



    Kurmandji Kurds:
    It was already the first modern humans from the Orient who began to settle Europe about 46 000 years ago. They were carriers of the Aurignac culture, possibly with haplogroup J. Therefore, similarities between Southern Slavs and Orientals are not out of the question - we know from anthropological science that Armenoids are reduced Iranids and Dinarids are a European variant of the Armenoids. These flowing transitions can also be revealed genetically as well as physiognomically.

    Vlade Divac prime example of a Dinarid can pass from Iran to Armenia without problems.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Anatolian Stallion View Post
    It was already the first modern humans from the Orient who began to settle Europe about 46 000 years ago. They were carriers of the Aurignac culture, possibly with haplogroup J. Therefore, similarities between Southern Slavs and Orientals are not out of the question - we know from anthropological science that Armenoids are reduced Iranids and Dinarids are a European variant of the Armenoids. These flowing transitions can also be revealed genetically as well as physiognomically.

    Vlade Divac prime example of a Dinarid can pass from Iran to Armenia without problems.

    This phenotype is not common for South Slavs in reallity.

    South Slavic average:


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    I bet the Ma'lta boy and other prehistoric males with R haplogroup looked more like Ainu people than modern-day mongoloids:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pahli View Post
    I2 = Very first Europeans
    Bullshit, prehistoric WHG males had usually C haplogroup which is "mongoloid" haplogroup.
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