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    Quote Originally Posted by wvwvw View Post
    Several Thracian graves or tombstones have the name Rufus inscribed on them, meaning "redhead" – a common name given to people with red hair.[58] Ancient Greek artwork often depicts Thracians as redheads.[59] Rhesus of Thrace, a mythological Thracian King, derived his name because of his red hair and is depicted on Greek pottery as having red hair and beard.[59] Ancient Greek writers also described the Thracians as red haired. A fragment by the Greek poet Xenophanes describes the Thracians as blue-eyed and red haired:

    ...Men make gods in their own image; those of the Ethiopians are black and snub-nosed, those of the Thracians have blue eyes and red hair.[60]

    Bacchylides described Theseus as wearing a hat with red hair, which classicists believe was Thracian in origin.[61] Other ancient writers who described the hair of the Thracians as red include Hecataeus of Miletus,[62] Galen,[63] Clement of Alexandria,[64] and Julius Firmicus Maternus.[65]
    But people mixed eventually ....

    You are speaking of Pra-Ancient Thrace... god dammit.

    You do remember that Rome conquered those people, then they mixed with all Roman citizens during the next .. lets see: 1300 years?

    Emperor Stephen Dušan claimed Thracian ancestry in 13th century, he didn't have any Red Hair or whatsoever.. but he knew about Thracian ancestry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diocleatian204 View Post

    Thracians were Dark Haired, brown/dark eyed, with lots of Southern admixture.
    The Greek Thracians tribes were Dark Haired. Which is why the Bible lists them among the Greek tribes. In the biblical line of decent form Japheth, Rhodus, Thrakos, and Elisa (Aeolians) are mentioned as the sons of Javan or Ion. In other words the Thracians were Aigialean Ionian Greeks who are of the same decent as the Pelasgians.

    The Pelasgians and Aigialeans were part of the Inachid line which was part of the Oceanid and originated from the Peloponnese which was originally named after them Pelasgia and Aigialea.

    Thrace was the daughter of Oceanus and Parthenope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wvwvw View Post
    The Greek Thracians tribes were Dark Haired. Which is why the Bible lists them among the Greek tribes. In the biblical line of decent form Japheth, Rhodus, Thrakos, and Elisa (Aeolians) are mentioned as the sons of Javan or Ion. In other words the Thracians were Aigialean Ionian Greeks who are of the same decent as the Pelasgians.

    The Pelasgians and Aigialeans were part of the Inachid line which was part of the Oceanid and originated from the Peloponnese which was originally named after them Pelasgia and Aigialea.

    Thrace was the daughter of Oceanus and Parthenope.
    This is exactly why atheists exist; because the Bible was written by some regular man that made up everything.

    Also, didn't you just say Thracians were red-haired and blue-eyed? Now they were dark-haired? Make up your mind history falsificator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    Illyrians were Greeks just like Spartans, Athenians they were just living in tribes instead of cities.

    From who then we have 45-50% Greek autosomal if not Illyrians? Of course they were relatives of modern Greeks as Cadmus myth explains, actually our autosomal confirms Cadmus myth.
    I literally explained to you why these DNA tests say "Greek" and that it does not actually mean "Greek." DNA tests compare your DNA to that of their reference populations and if your ethnic group (or even regional people for that matter!) are not in the company's database, your results get distributed among the reference population they do have and your DNA is closest related to. In the case of many DNA tests there is only Greek, no Albanian, Thracian, Illyrian, Dacian, Carian, Lydian, Phrygian, Mysian, Bithynian, Galatian, Lycian etc. so ancestry from these peoples will be interpreted as "Greek." But it is NOT Greek and Illyrians were NOT Greek. They were ILLYRIANS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wvwvw View Post
    We all know that there is not any 'Ancient Albania', there is only ancient north Greek Epiros and according to Stravon(ancient Greek geographer & historian) the ancient Greek Epiros was reaching Dyrachion/Durazzo/Durres(central modern Albania), till early Middle Ages. In recent & modern times its population Albanized.


    Ancient Greek settlements in Albania. Classical Epirus shown in
    grey. Borders of ancient Epirus (blue), Macedonia (green).
    Blue dotted line: borders of the Greek world c. 6th AD.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Epirus#Geography


    The region of Epirus, stretching across Greece and Albania.
    grey: Approximate extent of Epirus in antiquity
    orange: Greek region of Epirus
    green: Approximate extent of largest concentration of Greeks in
    "Northern Epirus", early 20th century[1]
    red dotted line: Territory of Northern Epirus

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Epirus


    Tribes of Epirus in antiquity.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epirus#...assical_period


    The Roman provinces of Epirus vetus and Epirus nova in relation
    to modern borders.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epirus#...Byzantine_rule

    Albanisation

    "Minority status was limited to those who lived in 99 villages in the southern border areas, thereby excluding important concentrations of Greek settlement in Vlora (perhaps 8,000 people in 1994) and in adjoining areas along the coast, ancestral Greek towns such as Himara, and ethnic Greeks living elsewhere throughout the country. Mixed villages outside this designated zone, even those with a clear majority of ethnic Greeks, were not considered minority areas and therefore were denied any Greek language cultural or educational provisions. In addition, many Greeks were forcibly removed from the minority zones to other parts of the country as a product of communist population policy, an important and constant element of which was to preempt ethnic sources of political dissent. Greek place-names were changed to Albanian names, while use of the Greek language, prohibited everywhere outside the minority zones, was prohibited for many official purposes within them as well."[9]

    During the rule of King Zogu and the communist regime, the government encouraged Albanisation of the Greeks of Southern Albania (the territory was also called "Northern Epirus", especially among the Greeks).[9]

    9.^ a b c G97 T.J. Winnifrith (2003), Badlands-Borderland: A History of Southern Albania/Northern Epirus.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanisation
    but still Albanian are Epirotan and Illyrian Origin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diocleatian204 View Post
    but still Albanian are Epirotan and Illyrian Origin.
    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by BalkanTurk View Post
    I literally explained to you why these DNA tests say "Greek" and that it does not actually mean "Greek." DNA tests compare your DNA to that of their reference populations and if your ethnic group (or even regional people for that matter!) are not in the company's database, your results get distributed among the reference population they do have and your DNA is closest related to. In the case of many DNA tests there is only Greek, no Albanian, Thracian, Illyrian, Dacian, Carian, Lydian, Phrygian, Mysian, Bithynian, Galatian, Lycian etc. so ancestry from these peoples will be interpreted as "Greek." But it is NOT Greek and Illyrians were NOT Greek. They were ILLYRIANS.

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    And modern Greek dna is similar to that of Myceneans and Minoans you dimwit.

    Modern Greeks’ DNA Similar to Mycenaeans and Minoans, Study Finds
    By TNH Staff November 10, 2017

    NEW YORK – According to a recent study of DNA from ancient Mycenaeans and Minoans, scientists have discovered that most of the genetic code is similar to that of modern Greeks. The findings were published in Nature: the International Journal of Science, and reported in Science magazine. Since Homer wrote his epic poems The Iliad and The Odyssey, Greeks have considered the Mycenaeans their ancestors.

    The real Mycenaeans, who built their civilization and dominated Greece and the Aegean Sea around 1600 BCE-1200 BCE, are in fact the ancestors of modern Greeks, as reported in Science magazine. Only a small part of modern Greek DNA is from later groups that migrated into the country, Science reported, adding that the Mycenaeans are also “closely related to the earlier Minoans, the study reveals, another great civilization that flourished on the island of Crete from 2600 BCE- 1400 BCE.”
    https://www.thenationalherald.com/18...s-study-finds/

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    There is a reason why Islam replaced that decadent ideology that was Bogomilism.



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    No that is a pleb religion

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    Quote Originally Posted by wvwvw View Post
    And modern Greek dna is similar to that of Myceneans and Minoans you dimwit.

    Modern Greeks’ DNA Similar to Mycenaeans and Minoans, Study Finds
    By TNH Staff November 10, 2017

    NEW YORK – According to a recent study of DNA from ancient Mycenaeans and Minoans, scientists have discovered that most of the genetic code is similar to that of modern Greeks. The findings were published in Nature: the International Journal of Science, and reported in Science magazine. Since Homer wrote his epic poems The Iliad and The Odyssey, Greeks have considered the Mycenaeans their ancestors.

    The real Mycenaeans, who built their civilization and dominated Greece and the Aegean Sea around 1600 BCE-1200 BCE, are in fact the ancestors of modern Greeks, as reported in Science magazine. Only a small part of modern Greek DNA is from later groups that migrated into the country, Science reported, adding that the Mycenaeans are also “closely related to the earlier Minoans, the study reveals, another great civilization that flourished on the island of Crete from 2600 BCE- 1400 BCE.”
    https://www.thenationalherald.com/18...s-study-finds/
    And what does this have to do with what I said? I explained to Bosniensis "Greek" includes many other peoples that are now extinct and one current population; Albanians. I know Myceneans and Minoans were closely related since both populations were three fourth descended from neolithic farmers from Anatolia and I also know modern Greeks, only mainland ones, are closely related to them. Anatolian, Pontic and Cypriots are not, they are largely pre-Greek Cypriot, Phoenician, Georgian, Lazic, Armenian and descendes from numerous of Anatolian peoples that were hellenized by Greek settlers. In addition, the same genetic study you pointed out stated that Myceneans had East European and North Eurasian ancestry, while Minoans did not. Once again proof that Minoans were not Greek until the Myceneans hellenized them. But thanks for calling me a dimwit. I'd rather be that than a Greek like you.

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