Pazyryk Scythian aDNA results (mtDNA)

[Pahli]

Yes, clearly Iranic, without any other ethnic elements.



And?



So, the Chuvash or the Yakut peoples are not Turks!



Their common ancestors were those steppic peoples, whom lived in the Andronovo cultural complex. Anywas, the Turks in the modern Turkey are not Turks, because they are not nomads anymore as some Kyrgyz until today!

He is contradicting himself, so by his logic he isn't Turkish

[Böri]

There is no sample of the 'Scythian' language btw. There are just hypothesis from 1920s and attempts to reconstruct. That's based on Greek records, Hellenized writings. It's names with -os endings etc like Greek names.
That's not enough of proof.

The reconstruction was attempted by Abaev who took for granted that Scythian language was related with Avestan and old Persian.
And Abaev was... Ossetian himself.

There was Stalinist involvement in that theory. It was the years when Soviet Union was denying that old Rus' was Viking

So guys
No. It's not for granted Steppic people as you say, were Iranians. There is no proof for that.

Scythians became Iranic during Stalin era in Russia, the same time Rus' were officially declared non-Varangian LOL

[Pahli]

There is no sample of the 'Scythian' language btw. There are just hypothesis from 1920s and attempts to reconstruct. That's based on Greek records, Hellenized writings. It's names with -os endings etc like Greek names.
That's not enough of proof.

The reconstruction was attempted by Abaev who took for granted that Scythian language was related with Avestan and old Persian.
And Abaev was... Ossetian himself.

There was Stalinist involvement in that theory. It was the years when Soviet Union was denying that old Rus' was Viking

So guys
No. It's not for granted Steppic people as you say, were Iranians. There is no proof for that.

Scythians became Iranic during Stalin era in Russia, like Rus' were officially declared non-Varangian LOL

The proof for them being Iranian is much bigger than your flawed Turkic theory, why do you keep trying?

It probably hurts your Turanistic ideology of everything being Turkic

[Böri]

Ossetian chauvinistic Abaev prepared the 'Iranian Scythian' hypothesis during Stalin era, when same people declared Varangian Rus' weren't Varangian. Not to mention Joseph Stalin was half Ossetian too, from his mom side.

Enough said.

I respect construction attempts but everybody must confess the reality that there is no sample of the Scythian language at all.

[Pahli]

Ossetian chauvinistic Abaev prepared the 'Iranian Scythian' hypothesis during Stalin era, when same people declared Varangian Rus' weren't Varangian.
Enough said.

I respect construction attempts but everybody must confess the reality that there is no sample of the Scythian language at all.

There is but not a lot. although it points towards an East Iranian dialect of Iranian languages. I've seen how Turks tried to hijack that 1000 times and failed, even got destroyed by one of their own countrymen, not all Turks are blinded by dumb ideologies.

[Böri]

There is no sample of the Scythian language.
Toharians were IE (not Iranic) yeah. We know it. They were agriculturalist from Tarim Bassin who left written samples of their language behind them.

For Scythians, we don't know.

Sorry. We can't accept the Abaev-Stalin, Ossetian centric, Iranian Scythians hypothesis for granted.
If we believe in that, we must also accept that Rus' weren't Vikings, because same people pretended that too back then.

[Pahli]

There is no sample of the Scythian language.
Toharians were IE (not Iranic) yeah. We know it. They were agriculturalist from Tarim Bassin who left written samples of their language behind them.

For Scythians, we don't know.

Sorry. We can't accept the Abaev-Stalin, Ossetian centric, Iranian Scythians theory.
If we believe in that, we must also accept that Rus' weren't Vikings, because same people pretended that too back then.

You can't deny a theory just because of Vasily Abaev, then thousands of other linguists are wrong too.

[Leto]

Pamiroid Hungarian girl:


Definitely not white, hovewer, looks swarthy caucasoid for the superficial observer (the white peoples are blonde haired, light eyed and skinned peoples, the dark hair is not white)!

Blogen, Hungarians are a white Central European nation. Less mongoloid than me.

[blogen]

Blogen, Hungarians are a white Central European nation. Less mongoloid than me.

Hair color of the Hungarians (on Fischer–Saller), Mens/Womans:
brown-black (P-Y): 97,7%/96,9%
transitional: (M-O): 1,2%/1,8%
blond: (A-L): 0,8%/1%
red: (I-IV): 0,3%/0,3%

~4% Whites (only the natural light hair + light eye + and light skin!)
~28% swarthy Caucasoids
~67% swarthy not clear Caucasoids (few Mongoloid contribution, mosty only morphologically)
~1% swarthy not clear Mongoloids (few Caucasoid contribution, but visible not clear Mongoloid)

source

Again: white = light hair, eyes and skin.

Brown hair = swarthy, dark eyes = swarthy, dark skin = swarthy.

[Leto]

Hair color of the Hungarians (on Fischer–Saller), Mens/Womans:
brown-black (P-Y): 97,7%/96,9%
transitional: (M-O): 1,2%/1,8%
blond: (A-L): 0,8%/1%
red: (I-IV): 0,3%/0,3%

~4% Whites (only the natural light hair + light eye + and light skin!)
~28% swarthy Caucasoids
~67% swarthy not clear Caucasoids (few Mongoloid contribution, mosty only morphologically)
~1% swarthy not clear Mongoloids (few Caucasoid contribution, but visible not clear Mongoloid)

source

Again: white = light hair, eyes and skin.

Brown hair = swarthy, dark eyes = swarthy, dark skin = swarthy.

Southern Europeans are not white? Other Europeans with dark hair and brown eyes are not white? White has never meant blonde. The Spanish and Portuguese are rarely blonde, but they called themselves white back in the Colombus era. White = European.