Arpad dynasty DNA (kings of Hungary & Croatia)

[Vlatko Vukovic]

When will you realize man in your avatar is R1a ? The bitter irony...

Don't bark on R1ethel. He is in Eupedia described as proto-Slav (M458).

[Bosniensis]

Don't bark on R1ethel. He is in Eupedia described as proto-Slav (M458).

some say he is the first R1 ever appeared on Earth and that he survived to this day to defend his progeny (r1theloids)

[Jana]

How?

Dr. Jovan Deretić. Serbian pseudo historian who propagate autochtonous Balkan origin of all Slavic groups, came out as R1a Z280 in DNA testing. So not a native at all

But this is completely unrelated to topic...

[Vlatko Vukovic]

some say he is the first R1 ever appeared on Earth and that he survived to this day to defend his progeny (r1theloids)

The movie should be created: "The last knight of the R1 race".

[blogen]

If Arpad is truly Z93 branch of R1a, it should really mean he had Turkic roots. But if the was Z280 branch, it would mean something very different, as that is completely European subclade and most common among ordinary Hungarians today.

Z93 = Aryans and Ugrics.

[Jana]

Both can be arguably Turkic; it is the degree of Turkicness that is the debate. Not to mention, many Turkic peoples today have various different haplogroups including and outside of R1.

Regardless R1 is Eurasian in origin, and highlights the Asian origins ol that show prominently in our culture and history.

But Z280 is common only in Europe, among Baltic, Slavic and Finno Ugric groups. They definitelly aren't turkic.

[Jana]

Z93 = Aryans and Ugrics.

So you think Z280 wasn't original Ugric marker ?

[Bosniensis]

I don't know why people dislike being Turks. I do attack modern Turks from Turkey because they are not real Turks but fake Turks.

Being Turk is awesome, great ancestry from Genghis Khan who butchered seas of people, scorched earth etc.. (I mean that's awesome reputation of Turkic Warlord)

But we have a problem of understanding Who is Turk and Who isn't.

There are many wannabe Turks.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Both can be arguably Turkic; it is the degree of Turkicness that is the debate. Not to mention, many Turkic peoples today have various different haplogroups including and outside of R1.

Regardless R1 is Eurasian in origin, and highlights the Asian origins ol that show prominently in our culture and history.

Z280 can't be Turkic in any case. Same as M458.

[Bosniensis]

Dr. Jovan Deretić. Serbian pseudo historian who propagate autochtonous Balkan origin of all Slavic groups, came out as R1a Z280 in DNA testing. So not a native at all

But this is completely unrelated to topic...

This is Dzemal Bijedic in my Avatar... do not lie!

What Jovan Deretić? I've never heard for anyone named "Jovan Deretić".

Scram.