VLATKO VUKOVIC's autosomal!

[The Illyrian Warrior]

You can't call backwards orthodox/christians when you come from a muslim country and are most likely muslim.

If anything for sake of argument Orthodoxy is one of the least evolved & most primitive kind of christianity, therefore backward in my book and so are countries whom their people practice this religion, I can attest this better than you in America who barely know more than dozen of Orthodox there.

Stats usually can be misused or ill interpreted on the way you like, so I won't really bother to answer one by one.

[MalinBot]

If anything for sake of argument Orthodoxy is one of the least evolved & most primitive kind of christianity, therefore backward in my book and so are countries whom their people practice this religion, I can attest this better than you in America who barely know more than dozen of Orthodox there.

Stats usually can be misused or ill interpreted on the way you like, so I won't really bother to answer one by one.

The Muslim countries are the least developed, even in Balkans.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

The Muslim countries are the least developed, even in Balkans.

During the Ottomans era it was the opposite, so were Muslims in Spain before reconquista, or Arabs before, the convenient momentum for Christians is not a good measurement to draw a final conclusion or good argument to drop my argument in any way.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

During the Ottomans era it was the opposite, so were Muslims in Spain before reconquista, or Arabs before, the convenient momentum for Christians is not a good measurement to draw a final conclusion or good argument to drop my argument in any way.

There is a lot of misconception regarding Islamic Spain due to the Western and Anglo-Saxonic narrative being politcally correct regarding that period and not backing themselves on concrete evidence. I would recommend you to read books written by Iberian scholars regarding that period.




I have this one in Epub, it is in English and it is a good read. If you are interested I can share it with you.

[MalinBot]

During the Ottomans era it was the opposite, so were Muslims in Spain before reconquista, or Arabs before, the convenient momentum for Christians is not a good measurement to draw a final conclusion or good argument to drop my argument in any way.

Thats because christians were opressed and had to pay jizya among other things.Still the only thing the Ottoman empire and all muslim empires brought is destruction.

[Dibran]

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Upload your file to morely and tell us your YDNA prediction. They are usually pretty accurate give or take some inconsistencies.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Upload your file to morely and tell us your YDNA prediction. They are usually pretty accurate give or take some inconsistencies.

Unfortunatly i can't. It doesn't work.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Thats because christians were opressed and had to pay jizya among other things.Still the only thing the Ottoman empire and all muslim empires brought is destruction.

The same argument can Muslims use today in Middle East and elsewhere about Christians, what we can conclude today how in past 1000 years power/wealth has gone in to opposite direction, from once Muslim domination in Eurasia to Christian domination, besides, everyone in medieval times were ruthless, what sound Crusades or Inquisition to you? Opposite of Christians, Moors for eg. established quite a progressive and science based society, whereas Christians at that time make ISIS look like a kid from kindergarten.

Today is trendy to scapegoat on Muslims but isn't how you say it.

PS. Sorry for off topic, I won't hijack this thread anymore.

[Dibran]

Unfortunatly i can't. It doesn't work.

Yea, I just noticed . That sucks. you should do Y-DNA with Ftdna next. Likely you will be I2a1b-Din, given its high dominance in Bosnia. R1a, and others are also possible.

[Dibran]

He is part Serb from Montenegro and Gorani from Albania iirc

Aren't Gorani basically just a minority slavic tribe that never formed nationhood?